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Engine Swapping / 351 swap into 86 bird
 forgot to mention i have equal length shorties and matching h-pipe that i may ""try"" to use in this build.  i know the h-pipe probably wont work since the manifolds are up higher and outward but, a saw and a welder will take care of that,  and the center tube is only clamped together not welded so that can be adjusted.
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Engine Swapping / 351 swap into 86 bird
Quote from: Lightningbird;257216
Woah...a man after my own heart. OK lots of questions



Yes you can use GT-40P heads, 351 windsor is 1/2" so drill the P heads.



The headers for GT-40 P heads are of a special nature since the heads have different plug angles, the 302 headers may or may not fit depending on when they were built. Most likely NO. The headers would most definately not fit in the car what so ever. You need 351 swap headers. I do not know if anyone but FRPP has a set to fit 351W in a fox w/ GT40P heads.
I would trade the P heads for a set of GT-40's even though they flow worse and use any swap header you can find.



I think it's 78-92 for Crown Vic/Grand Marquis??




Ditch the T-Bird K member and use a fox mustang, that way you can use the motor mounts. The bird mounts with the goofy fluid filled mountshiznits everything related to exhaust otherwise. They have to go.

Hope this helps!!!


thanks for the info. if i cant use stang mounts with the stock k-member, then i will use the stock mounts for now, and upgrade later. i planned on gettin a k-member from an fox body anyway , and front suspension from a newer stang, but that is later down the road. as far as heads go im prolly gonna stick with the stock 351w heads that are on the engine now, since they have been freshend up,  this is not a big hp engine im putin in,  this is get an engine in the car so the car can move on its own, im tired of pushing the car around.

Quote from: HAVI;257313
budget officially thrown out the window, lol. :hick:

at this point in time, its either budget stays or the project doesnt move any farther.
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Engine Swapping / 351 swap into 86 bird
im decent with a welder,  but i have a cheap welder, and dont want to weld an oil pan,  i'd rather heat and beat with a hammer.  i plan on dropping it in and seeing what hits soon.
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Engine Swapping / 351 swap into 86 bird
im getting a 351w and a c6 free from a friend, it is a 4v HO truck engine, has 4wd pan.  complete engine from accessories to carb, to manifolds.  had the heads re-done about 1k miles ago.  here is my dilemna.  my car is a project car so im in no hurry, i also dont have much cash to spend.  im trading out my trans building experience for this engine/trans.  im looking to do this as cheap as possible.  here are the questions i have

can i use gt40p heads on a 351w? they have 3/8" head bolt holes, can the bolt holes be drilled to 1/2" size so it can work? i have no idea what headbolt size is on the 351. 

i have a set of bbk equal length shorties for a 302 in a fox car.  could these be used?  or do i need to have factory 351w manifolds or 351 swap manifolds??  will the 351w longtubes work with a c6 trans??

is there a possibility to use the oil pan,  i believe i could use a 351w crown vic oil pan (same as the motorsport pan swap kit), what year crown vics??

what engine mounts do i need to use?  i know the bird mounts use fluid filled and the stang mounts are the solid rubber kind, which i think are better,  can i use the stang mounts??

i have searched around the forum,  have seen similar questions, followed by answers of buy this part from said company.  id like to do this as cheap as possible.  i have time and very little money for this project, so im not scared to scavenge the junkyard for hours on end to spend $20 bucks for the part im looking for rather than taking 10 minutes to click and spending $200 or more.
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Lounge / thank you
well i talked it over with the wife.  i can keep the car ive just got to sell a bunch of stuff that im not going to use i just got in a trade.  and i cannot install the cam i just got too(would require stall or 5spd conversion, and a maf setup.) so im just going to hang on to it.  oh i didnt buy her a car, i bought her a 42" flatscreen,  i can play my 360 on it only when she's not home :)
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Lounge / thank you
i would like to thank anyone who has helped me with questions i have had.  but due to a nagging wife im going to let this project die.  i would love to drive my thunderbird, but alas im whipped and its too late to get un-whipped.  i will be posting some of the stuff i have for sale soon as soon as i get pics    again thanks all
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Engine Tech / recomendations
sorry for extra post, but locally all we have is 1/8th.  i'd love to get into the low 7's but mid to high 7's is more realistic for me and my budget.  oh no a/c btw.
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Engine Tech / recomendations
yea i figured that any fat cam like that wont have enough vacuum for the map sensor.  well im going to sell my 2400 and try to find a 3000+ stall converter.  so i can run a big lift/ big duration.  i talked with my local engine builder, and he is saying that with a big valved gt40p head combo i should try to find a 550 + cam with 286 or better duration with cam specs from 2000-6000 or 6500.  he is also willing to help me out with some flow bench time on my heads too!!!
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Engine Tech / recomendations
im having a hard time finding the Stage-1  trick flow cams.  i found the 3 track max cams there is one that is a .499/.510, a .542/.563, and .574/.595.  i am assuming that stage 1 is the .499/.510.  i already have a B&M 2400 stall,  and i would like to use it, but if i need to get another one i could.
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Drivetrain Tech / AOD trans build
i would like to build an AOD trans that should handle about 400-450 ft lbs of tq.  i am curious as to what internals i should upgrade.  i figure on using a hardend input shaft and racing clutches.  i am planning on using a full manual revers pattern valve body. what is the next weakest  link inside the trans???
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Drivetrain Tech / Tranny Overhaul
you will need a clutch pack piston depressor, or take the stuff that you will need special tools to a trans shop.
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Engine Tech / recomendations
Hi all, i have been lurking, learning and listening to alot of people but im in need of some help.  I am going to rebuild my engine and i am in need of some recommendations.  like cam, rods, and a few other things. let me give a description of what i am planning on using and what i want the car to do. the car is going to be fuel injected with mass air flow setup, using a built AOD transmission with about a 2400 stall.  i will more than likely use a set of shorty equal length headers, but i have a set of long tube headers i can use as well (whichever is better).  when i rebuild the engine i plan on using a stock, machined crank, forged pistons, heavily ported gt40p heads, roller rockers, a 302 truck lower intake, and a modified truck upper or im going to find a box style upper intake to fit the lower since the truck lower has bigger runners.  im going to use 19lb injectors at first unless they are maxed out then i will go with a set of 24 lb injectors.  this car will be  a street car with a little bit of a drag strip time too. with a 2400 stall i would like the power band to be around 2000 - 6500 rpm. 

phew..... that was long...  oh btw sorry for such a long post but i figured u guys would need to know what im planning or else you guys wouldnt know what to recommend.

i would like to know what cam should i use.  i dont think ill be going turbo/supercharged anytime soon,  yet there is a possibility in the near future.  if i do super/turbo the car, i will change the whole engine with it. 
Also i would like to know what kind of rods i should use.  get the stock ones reconditiond, or save my money and go with a set of i or h-beam rods.  i dont know how much power i plan on making.  i plan on having less than a 10:1 compression ratio, and i dont plan on ever spinning the engine faster than 6500, unless the spark box decides to take a dump. 
again sorry its so long of a thread,  but i figured i would throw all my info in at once instead of over 10 or so posts. 
thanks, kevin