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Engine Swapping / 351 swap into 86 bird
Quote from: Lightningbird;257216
Woah...a man after my own heart. OK lots of questions
Yes you can use GT-40P heads, 351 windsor is 1/2" so drill the P heads.
The headers for GT-40 P heads are of a special nature since the heads have different plug angles, the 302 headers may or may not fit depending on when they were built. Most likely NO. The headers would most definately not fit in the car what so ever. You need 351 swap headers. I do not know if anyone but FRPP has a set to fit 351W in a fox w/ GT40P heads.
I would trade the P heads for a set of GT-40's even though they flow worse and use any swap header you can find.
I think it's 78-92 for Crown Vic/Grand Marquis??
Ditch the T-Bird K member and use a fox mustang, that way you can use the motor mounts. The bird mounts with the goofy fluid filled mountshiznits everything related to exhaust otherwise. They have to go.
Hope this helps!!!
thanks for the info. if i cant use stang mounts with the stock k-member, then i will use the stock mounts for now, and upgrade later. i planned on gettin a k-member from an fox body anyway , and front suspension from a newer stang, but that is later down the road. as far as heads go im prolly gonna stick with the stock 351w heads that are on the engine now, since they have been freshend up, this is not a big hp engine im putin in, this is get an engine in the car so the car can move on its own, im tired of pushing the car around.
Quote from: HAVI;257313
budget officially thrown out the window, lol. :hick:
at this point in time, its either budget stays or the project doesnt move any farther.
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Engine Swapping / 351 swap into 86 bird
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Engine Swapping / 351 swap into 86 bird
can i use gt40p heads on a 351w? they have 3/8" head bolt holes, can the bolt holes be drilled to 1/2" size so it can work? i have no idea what headbolt size is on the 351.
i have a set of bbk equal length shorties for a 302 in a fox car. could these be used? or do i need to have factory 351w manifolds or 351 swap manifolds?? will the 351w longtubes work with a c6 trans??
is there a possibility to use the oil pan, i believe i could use a 351w crown vic oil pan (same as the motorsport pan swap kit), what year crown vics??
what engine mounts do i need to use? i know the bird mounts use fluid filled and the stang mounts are the solid rubber kind, which i think are better, can i use the stang mounts??
i have searched around the forum, have seen similar questions, followed by answers of buy this part from said company. id like to do this as cheap as possible. i have time and very little money for this project, so im not scared to scavenge the junkyard for hours on end to spend $20 bucks for the part im looking for rather than taking 10 minutes to click and spending $200 or more.
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Lounge / thank you
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Lounge / thank you
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Drivetrain Tech / AOD trans build
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Engine Tech / recomendations
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Engine Tech / recomendations
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Engine Tech / recomendations
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Drivetrain Tech / AOD trans build
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Drivetrain Tech / Tranny Overhaul
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Engine Tech / recomendations
phew..... that was long... oh btw sorry for such a long post but i figured u guys would need to know what im planning or else you guys wouldnt know what to recommend.
i would like to know what cam should i use. i dont think ill be going turbo/supercharged anytime soon, yet there is a possibility in the near future. if i do super/turbo the car, i will change the whole engine with it.
Also i would like to know what kind of rods i should use. get the stock ones reconditiond, or save my money and go with a set of i or h-beam rods. i dont know how much power i plan on making. i plan on having less than a 10:1 compression ratio, and i dont plan on ever spinning the engine faster than 6500, unless the spark box decides to take a dump.
again sorry its so long of a thread, but i figured i would throw all my info in at once instead of over 10 or so posts.
thanks, kevin
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T-Bird/Cougar Parts & Cars WANTED / Mass Air Conversion
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