whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot December 02, 2011, 03:37:40 PM and whoever decided it was a good idea to use them was an even bigger idiot. Way to go Ford.What you see here is one of the bolts that holds the rear seat and seatbelt to the floor. What you also see is a TORX driver that has been put under so much force to attempt to remove that bolt that it has warped out of shape. And you also see a TORX bolt that has had so much pressure put on it that the driver has slipped out multiple times, and sheared the grooves of the inside of the head. That being said, does anyone know what level of hell I need to get through in order to get this now round headed bolt out, that out that I couldn't get out with an 18" breaker bar?Oh, and yes, I've used three different types of penetrating oil, and I've tried a propane torch too. Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #1 – December 02, 2011, 04:17:33 PM I don't think I've ever really had an issue with a Torx head unless someone previous screwed it up with cheap tools or by not holding the bit flush. Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #2 – December 02, 2011, 04:40:26 PM Had the same issue here, of course we get all the salt, when I needed to get the seat back out. I crawled under the car and sprayed it from the back side to no avail. Finally took a pair of snips and cut the tab off the seat to get the back out, with it out I put a chisel on the head of the bolt cracked it a couple times with a hammer and it came right out. Good luck Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #3 – December 02, 2011, 05:04:58 PM LOL, Could try one of those craftsmen "easy out" socket things that bite into studs. Ya torx has to be exact size or spins the head of the torx socket off, and if any one before you messed with it the head is screwed up lol. Another option is to grind a line across it and try using something like a screw driver. Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #4 – December 02, 2011, 05:33:15 PM Everyone saw the rust on my car..... heated the underside with a torch, and they came right out.... believe it or not.... lolPropane won't do it.. Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #5 – December 02, 2011, 05:45:34 PM hammer and chisel, makes sure you go the right way Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #6 – December 02, 2011, 06:06:27 PM Tor Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #7 – December 02, 2011, 07:02:57 PM Torx are magnificent!!!!! Have you tried tearing a car apart with philips or flat head screws??? Nightmare! Like everyone has said torx has to be the right size otherwise you ruin it. Torx+ are even better, the flatter, and fatter points make it so much easier for leverage. I have a set of MAC Tools torx and torx+ sockets and love them. Security torx are the only pain.A propane torch won't do jack to that quality of metal, you'll spend hours trying to get it to hold that heat. You need an Oxy/Acetylene,Natural Gas, or blow torch to get that baby hot and it'll back right out with vice grips if absolutely needed. Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #8 – December 02, 2011, 07:09:37 PM I agree..lotta heat!And graham, you need to go the LEFT way lmao Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #9 – December 02, 2011, 07:11:47 PM Quote from: TOM Renzo;374496 Remember most of those fastioners are coted with a locking compound from the factory. you nailed it right there, the bolts he is talking about needs that stuff melted away so the bolt comes out, otherwise your really going to be at a disadvantage.never had much trouble with torx,,, APEX tips yes but torx, no.I prefer my brake caliper bolts to be allen though,, now those can be a pain if you dont lube em before you put them back in. Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #10 – December 02, 2011, 07:20:52 PM All the Torx bolts on the Sport are great. Never had an issue. Oklahoma climate wins !!! Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #11 – December 02, 2011, 07:35:57 PM Get a t-55 or t-60 and hammer it in. The second it feels like its slipping, stop and hammer it back in. Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #12 – December 02, 2011, 07:37:12 PM I know those bolts are a beeotch to get out. Last time I needed a seat belt out at the junk yard, I asked the yard guy to get it for me. He used a small electric impact gun and it zipped them right out. I have one of those hitachi li-ion electric impact guns at work. I love it. More balls than you would think... Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #13 – December 03, 2011, 12:29:18 AM Quote from: Haystack;374511Get a t-55 or t-60 and hammer it in. The second it feels like its slipping, stop and hammer it back in. Now that sounds like a plan. Quote from: 88turbo;374493hammer and chisel, makes sure you go the right way If the above plan does not work.... or it may come to some combination of the two lolQuote from: CoogarXR;374512I have one of those hitachi li-ion electric impact guns at work. I love it. More balls than you would think... I've got one too but I don't actually have a impact wrench, just a imact screwgun. Its great for work but 60 in/lbs of torque is not nearly enough for this application. Its frikken sweet for removing bolts with a lot of thread though, like intake bolts and whatnot. Quote from: cougrrr302;374504Torx are magnificent!!!!! Have you tried tearing a car apart with philips or flat head screws??? Nightmare! Like everyone has said torx has to be the right size otherwise you ruin it. I just don't see the appeal. phillips head screws, and hex head bolts. I just don't see the need for anything else. Its not like there was some special application where it was necessary to use these where the did... I don't get it. And I did use the right size driver. I've ruined (2) TWO different drivers on this bolt. all the other ones I managed to remove but this one just will not budge.Quote from: cougrrr302;374504A propane torch won't do jack to that quality of metal, you'll spend hours trying to get it to hold that heat. You need an Oxy/Acetylene,Natural Gas, or blow torch to get that baby hot and it'll back right out with vice grips if absolutely needed. It would be nice if I owned or had access to one of those but alas I do not. Which is why I bought a $25 propane torch. Quote Selected
whoever invented TORX head bolts was a friggen idiot Reply #14 – December 03, 2011, 12:59:42 AM you can buy a small oxy/acetylene torch set (tanks are the same size as the propane torch kits).. i have a couple and they work great.. i've actually cut some thin steel with mine Quote Selected
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