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Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #15 –
Yes, stock wiring (extended to reach around 5.0) and a stock 88TC alternator...  so the current wiring should be just fine.  Has been for many years so far.

And am I understanding correct that a bad alternator CAN cause the output wire to overload/overheat?

And last, can someone please let me know which 130a 3g on paperformance's ford alternator page is the right one?  I can't figure out why there are two the same but listed seperate and if I don't figure it out tonight/early AM, I'll have to go with a stock replacement (because of time constraints and shipping time) which I really hate to do considering it's not much more $$ to upgrade...
1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
'89 5.0 w/ ported intakes, Mallory Adjustable FPR, BBK shorties and H with 2.5" Flows, 130 amp 3G, 89 Mustang comp/wiring, Aluminum radiator w/ elec fan, T5 trans, King Cobra clutch, 3.55 gears, 13" Cobra brakes (front), Wilwood prop valve, Mustang A-arms, Front Coil-overs, MM CC plates, Silver 17x9 R's, 03 Cobra IRS, Aluminum DS, 2002 Mustang dash/console etc..., custom leather seats

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #16 –
Quote from: DMC24guy;178198
I did NOT botch the installation. I followed the official instructions over at NATO, used all the components recommended in that Installation guide, yet it caught fire. You are WRONG.

Actually, you didn't follow the directions.

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #17 –
3rd alternator from the left,on the top row,on the second page,for a 5.0.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #18 –
Quote from: DMC24guy;178198
I did NOT botch the installation. I followed the official instructions over at NATO, used all the components recommended in that Installation guide, yet it caught fire. You are WRONG.


You are wrong in stating that swapping in a 3G has the potential to cause the car to burst into flames.  An improper install is the reason....
I'm pretty sure it was established that you did NOT follow the directions to a "T", but you REFUSE to accept the fact that you might have made a mistake.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #19 –
Ok, thanks! But what is the difference you see between the one on the top row, and the one on the bottom row (I like to understand, not just have the answers, LOL - I know, I ask SO much!)
1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
'89 5.0 w/ ported intakes, Mallory Adjustable FPR, BBK shorties and H with 2.5" Flows, 130 amp 3G, 89 Mustang comp/wiring, Aluminum radiator w/ elec fan, T5 trans, King Cobra clutch, 3.55 gears, 13" Cobra brakes (front), Wilwood prop valve, Mustang A-arms, Front Coil-overs, MM CC plates, Silver 17x9 R's, 03 Cobra IRS, Aluminum DS, 2002 Mustang dash/console etc..., custom leather seats

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #20 –
Ok, correction, 3rd from the left on the top is a 200a.  I want a 130a.  Still top row?  And how do you know?  thanks again!
1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
'89 5.0 w/ ported intakes, Mallory Adjustable FPR, BBK shorties and H with 2.5" Flows, 130 amp 3G, 89 Mustang comp/wiring, Aluminum radiator w/ elec fan, T5 trans, King Cobra clutch, 3.55 gears, 13" Cobra brakes (front), Wilwood prop valve, Mustang A-arms, Front Coil-overs, MM CC plates, Silver 17x9 R's, 03 Cobra IRS, Aluminum DS, 2002 Mustang dash/console etc..., custom leather seats

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #21 –
Ok, nevermind...  I realized it's cheaper to just get the stator plug and fuse, etc... on two day air and get the alternator from a parts store.
1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
'89 5.0 w/ ported intakes, Mallory Adjustable FPR, BBK shorties and H with 2.5" Flows, 130 amp 3G, 89 Mustang comp/wiring, Aluminum radiator w/ elec fan, T5 trans, King Cobra clutch, 3.55 gears, 13" Cobra brakes (front), Wilwood prop valve, Mustang A-arms, Front Coil-overs, MM CC plates, Silver 17x9 R's, 03 Cobra IRS, Aluminum DS, 2002 Mustang dash/console etc..., custom leather seats

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #22 –
The one that is on the second page,top row,third from the left states it's a 130 amp.It shows it right under the alternator "130 amp".It has wiring with it as well.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #23 –
Ahh, ....  I didn't even see other pages!  Ok, but I don't have an external regulator.  Do I need this kit to maintain factory warnings lights and all?  I was just gonna make my own wiring (ordered the stator plug and a fuse block/fuse) and get the alternator locally...
1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
'89 5.0 w/ ported intakes, Mallory Adjustable FPR, BBK shorties and H with 2.5" Flows, 130 amp 3G, 89 Mustang comp/wiring, Aluminum radiator w/ elec fan, T5 trans, King Cobra clutch, 3.55 gears, 13" Cobra brakes (front), Wilwood prop valve, Mustang A-arms, Front Coil-overs, MM CC plates, Silver 17x9 R's, 03 Cobra IRS, Aluminum DS, 2002 Mustang dash/console etc..., custom leather seats

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #24 –
Like anything if done right it will help your car and would be worth a little down time if you know what your doing or got the money to upgrade. I will say do it so later if you add anything you won't have to worry much about the power it uses.

Stinger Audio makes a 450amp alternator would that be overkill? they also have a twin set-up 2 alternator 900amp for the newer SUV's as well. 5 year replacement plan thats all i know and there not cheap.
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1988 T-Bird 5.0 HO DD/Sleeper/next project car :birdsmily:
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Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #25 –
Yeah, I'm doing it...  Just wanted to get my last question about the pa performance kit answered... Seems wrong for me as I have an internally regulated setup now...
1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
'89 5.0 w/ ported intakes, Mallory Adjustable FPR, BBK shorties and H with 2.5" Flows, 130 amp 3G, 89 Mustang comp/wiring, Aluminum radiator w/ elec fan, T5 trans, King Cobra clutch, 3.55 gears, 13" Cobra brakes (front), Wilwood prop valve, Mustang A-arms, Front Coil-overs, MM CC plates, Silver 17x9 R's, 03 Cobra IRS, Aluminum DS, 2002 Mustang dash/console etc..., custom leather seats

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #26 –
Quote from: booksix;178325
Ahh, ....  I didn't even see other pages!  Ok, but I don't have an external regulator.  Do I need this kit to maintain factory warnings lights and all?  I was just gonna make my own wiring (ordered the stator plug and a fuse block/fuse) and get the alternator locally...

The factory AMP gauge in your Turbo Coupe likely doesn't work anyway (it is a useless "gauge" that tells you nothing, hardly ever works, and will likely never move over the entire life of the car - why Ford didn't install VOLT gauges like they did in Mustangs I'll never know), but no, it won't work with the 130 amp alt.

I don't know about the TC's, but in 5.0 cars you can retain your stock regulator plug (you've just got to rewire it slightly). You can also re-use your stock heavy-gauge black/orange stripe output wire - cut the plug off, install a ring terminal, and bolt it to the output stud along with and in parallel with the new, heavier wire you MUST install.
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1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #27 –
My output wire already has a ring terminal on it, not a "plug."  Are you saying your's had a plug or just a ring terminal that was too small for the 3g output stud?  And yeah, i'm going to re-pin my stock reg plug and add 4 gauge to the out...
1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
'89 5.0 w/ ported intakes, Mallory Adjustable FPR, BBK shorties and H with 2.5" Flows, 130 amp 3G, 89 Mustang comp/wiring, Aluminum radiator w/ elec fan, T5 trans, King Cobra clutch, 3.55 gears, 13" Cobra brakes (front), Wilwood prop valve, Mustang A-arms, Front Coil-overs, MM CC plates, Silver 17x9 R's, 03 Cobra IRS, Aluminum DS, 2002 Mustang dash/console etc..., custom leather seats

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #28 –
2G's had a plug for the output's.. Two black/orange wires and a third I don't recall.  Then the regulator plug.
One 88

Can a 3g be damaging overkill?

Reply #29 –
so why the heck did my 88 tc have the 3 plug (one going no where) connector and a single ring terminal output??
1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
'89 5.0 w/ ported intakes, Mallory Adjustable FPR, BBK shorties and H with 2.5" Flows, 130 amp 3G, 89 Mustang comp/wiring, Aluminum radiator w/ elec fan, T5 trans, King Cobra clutch, 3.55 gears, 13" Cobra brakes (front), Wilwood prop valve, Mustang A-arms, Front Coil-overs, MM CC plates, Silver 17x9 R's, 03 Cobra IRS, Aluminum DS, 2002 Mustang dash/console etc..., custom leather seats