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Toying with T5 swap behind 3.8

ive been doing some slight looking around and whatnot for doing this swap, and had a nice discussion about it with Sancho last night

we came to the conclusion that a 5.0 bellhousing will not work for the T5 swap due to the difference in the size of the flywheels, the 3.8L has a larger diameter flywheel that the 5.0 bellhousing will not clear

another issue that Sancho brought to my attention was that the 3.8L bellhousing is 3/4 inch longer than the 5.0's bellhousing, i dont know if this would effect shifter placement or not, or the driveshaft

something else i need to look into is the shifter fork, does this interchange with the 5.0 or is it also a 3.8 only part

just some info for anyone interested
It's Gumby's fault.

Re: Toying with T5 swap behind 3.8

Reply #1
Ford put a five speed behind the 3.8 in the sn95 cars.

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Reply #2
this i know, but since im going to convert to a 5.0, i dont want to have to buy a complete 3.8L setup, just to pull it out and go with a 5.0 setup, id like to see what parts interchange
It's Gumby's fault.

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Reply #3
Unless the 5.0 flywheel will not bolt to the 3.8 crank or the ballance is different, I see no reason a complete 5.0 setup won't work on a 3.8 fox body. Check to see if the 3.8 & 5.0 AOD flexplates are the same for say '87. If they are, then the 5.0 T5 setup will work no prob.

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Reply #4
i believe the balance is different, but ill look around and post back with my findings
It's Gumby's fault.

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Reply #5
alright, i looked up both flexplates in the allmighty advance auto website, the flexplates have the same diameter, same pitch, same teeth, but are still different, leaving only the balance to make up the difference
It's Gumby's fault.

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Quote from: Tbird232ci
alright, i looked up both flexplates in the allmighty advance auto website, the flexplates have the same diameter, same pitch, same teeth, but are still different, leaving only the balance to make up the difference


Well that sucks..... :(

Really you don't have any idea if the 5.0 flywheel will even bolt up to a 3.8. Maybe you could find a Advance or where ever with both in stock and compare. If the weight is of the approxmate same size and location you could still probably use the 5.0 flywheel(assuming it will bolt up). Caution its really tough to tell if bolt patterns are the same, usually there is just one or two bolts that are spaced differently than the others.

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Quote from: Tbird232ci
alright, i looked up both flexplates in the allmighty advance auto website, the flexplates have the same diameter, same pitch, same teeth, but are still different, leaving only the balance to make up the difference


Here you say they are same diameter, if they are in fact the same, you could use the 5.0 bellhousing.  :dunno:  :)
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

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Reply #8
the flexplates are the same diameter, the flywheels are not

the local advance is tough to get help like that from, they are the kind that if youre not buying something, they dont really want to help you, ill see if i can find any other source of information for the balance weights before i resort to pushing my nerves at advance
It's Gumby's fault.

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Reply #9
Oh ok, I see.  Good luck. :)
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

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Quote from: Tbird232ci

the local advance is tough to get help like that from, they are the kind that if youre not buying something, they dont really want to help you, ill see if i can find any other source of information for the balance weights before i resort to pushing my nerves at advance


I believe I still have a 5.0 AOD flexplate out in the garage. I'm sorta freinds with the Mgr at the local Advance(race with her husband). If she has a 3.8 plate in stock, maybe she will let me compare them.

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Reply #11
From the info in this thread, looks like the 5.0 flywheel will fit the 3.8 but the ballance is different(at least in the SC). Maybe the SC flywheel will work??? NAAWWW you just want to buy my TC, 5 speed already installed.

http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52654

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Reply #12
its either the local guys or yours, both 5-speeds, so ill have a 5-speed either way!!

i was going to put a 5-speed behind the 3.8L just to keep myself someone content with the cars performance, but i wont need to when i get a 5-speed TC
It's Gumby's fault.

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Reply #13
I'm in the same boat as Tbird232ci. I'd like to swap a T5 in front of my V6, then upgrade to a V8 at a later date. I did some searching on the V6 Mustang boards but didn't find any concrete info that the V6/V8 flywheels have compatible bolt patterns. I've got a friend at Advance Auto who said he will compare the two on Wednesday. Does the SN95 V6 have the same bolt pattern as a Fox T-bird/Cougar V6?

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Reply #14
My friend ended up not going in Wednesday. He said he'll check the flywheels, I'm just not sure when.