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Accel plug wires

Reply #60 –
Just a side note, I read that Ford fixed the TFI's failing due to the heat load.  Not sure what they did but remote mounting it is no longer something the Mustang guys are doing as the fix is in the module itself.  Again, just something I have read on a couple of the sites.  Other than than great discussion, man I learned a lot but that is not unusual.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Accel plug wires

Reply #61 –
Quote from: jcassity;404402
makes sense tom,, like in the utility side of your electrical service.  if your linear and non-linear loads go up on the secondary, well,, depending on the turns ratio and potential on the primary,,, something has to give.  more load = more current draw.

im always telling my boys they are pushing the envelope gaping plugs on the 5.0 to more than .050.  this is a fairly safe gap to protect the coil and all things considered that the coil gets trigger signals from.


 Yes. And if you increase the power output, the power will try to "escape" the wires. The end result is the same as too much gap or bad plug. May or may not be bad enough to cause a miss, but will be hard on the TFI for sure. This is where the added insulation on the wires is key.

Accel plug wires

Reply #62 –
Quote from: Aerocoupe;404465
Just a side note, I read that Ford fixed the TFI's failing due to the heat load.  Not sure what they did but remote mounting it is no longer something the Mustang guys are doing as the fix is in the module itself.  Again, just something I have read on a couple of the sites.  Other than than great discussion, man I learned a lot but that is not unusual.

Darren
Good to know. When did they upgrade it?

Accel plug wires

Reply #63 –
yeah, when was this fixed?

Accel plug wires

Reply #64 –
I'm reading a lot about TFI failure. What are the symptoms? Will the car still run?

Accel plug wires

Reply #65 –
Quote from: 86cougar;404432
Is the Ford Racing products all built here .

 
No, much of it is coming from China.
Mike

Accel plug wires

Reply #66 –
Quote from: 86cougar;404484
I'm reading a lot about TFI failure. What are the symptoms? Will the car still run?

typically no spark or weak spark are symptoms of a failed TFI

Accel plug wires

Reply #67 –
Quote from: mcb82gt;404485
No, much of it is coming from China.
Tom, I hope you know that I was not trying to offend you in any way. I just wanted to make a point. Truth is Americans don't really know what to believe any more. Mom and Pop shops!!

Accel plug wires

Reply #68 –
I don't have any dospoogeentation to support the revision as it is just what I have read on some of the boards.  I will do some digging around and see if I can come up with anything.  I did come across this dospoogeent a while back and it was a good read:

http://www.myo-p.com/Ford-EEC/EEC%20Help%20files/Files/TFI_grey_or_black.html

And Joel has a really good do it yourself diagnostic write up on how to test the components here:

http://351winsor.com/joel/Ignition_Systems/tfi2.html

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Accel plug wires

Reply #69 –
86 no worries just a discussion. Been their before. What i can tell you is i am just passing on info from my experience in this field. This business is a tough one and it survived 4 generations now. Dont worry i will be reading the posts and enjoying this site for a long time. I wont be posting in great detail any more as i am just laying back and concentrating on business. I am not posting any more of my Mods either. I think that makes some people mad as i was told by others on other sites. Why only the Lord knows.  Thank you.

Note each and every electronic device on this planet is heat sensitive to my knowledge. With cars it is a big issue at times.  According to Standard Motor products the TFI mode has been unchanged in design since the gray module. No need to make them any more reliable as the system is Quite Obsolete.

:burnout:
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Accel plug wires

Reply #70 –
I will go with what Tom is saying about the TFI modules as all I can find is hearsay so chalk it up to internet folk lore at this point.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Accel plug wires

Reply #71 –
Quote from: TOM Renzo;404555
I am not posting any more of my Mods either. I think that makes some people mad as i was told by others on other sites. Why only the Lord knows.  :

the mod posts are enjoyable and great to see, we get board with our obsolete systems sometimes and to find an improvment is great.
its not the posts but the static electricity that draws debris in from some posts.

your not allowed to speak your opinion and debate it with everyone nor substantiate it either.  you are suppose to be enlightened by eveyrone elses opinions and change yours ,, such is the way of our nation today.
in so many cases the so called bashing posts are as a result of someone else crossing a line that futher caused you to have to come back,, but you didnt have to and thats the point i'll make.  people stoped appreciating knowledge base along time ago because they represent people who have too much ability.  People dont like people with great amounts of ability today because  having people around who know stuff decreases the odds of everyone else being able to help you,, therefore your god like composure is insulting because the other people dont feel as useful. 

i dont know everything nor do you but i will say this......
i would hope that given a choice, the members of this board would rather have you working on thier car if they could.  Having said that, how much respect does this truely deserve? 

you say what you say because in **most of the cases you cite** you have earned the right.  (not only you but many others on this board).  Aspriing to be like someone is unfortunatly a faded memory and it will work well for a few more decades until at some magic point someone has a brilliant idea,, "hey, hows about we start listening" 

your are rich in your knowledge and you know how much rich people are liked today.

it is a sad day when a person can aspire to be the best and then willing to share it with anyone anytime,only to be kicked in the balls for doing it decades later.

the biggest problem with electronic communications formats is that "tone" doesnt carry through so there is no emotional connection, saying someing in a typed sentence comes off much differntly than in person,  people foget that to... certainly most of the time my tone is abrasive but i am saying this post in a pleading manner simply stating fact and here in person, it sounds fair and honest. 

so, dont post mods, no one said not to, thats your choice