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Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

I installed a qa1 k-member on my 87 bird. I had some 91 mustang ho stuff i had gathered up for 11" brakes n soforth. I went to install the strut n spindle assembly and the strut mounts are different. Figured i could change them out with t-bird ones??? But i had already tossed my old ones. But anyway now i want to go with 94-95 spindle n hub assembly on it. I have a set of 04 bullits to put on but thay dont fit the old style shiznit. The rear is fine cuz its a 2001. And also my steering shaft is now 1.5-2" short after putting i k-member. They recommend a flaming river rack n shaft. Cant i pull the steering column shaft downward to meet???? Any help would be awesome!!!

I also need to buy 94-95 spindles,rotors,hub!!!! Any body got any to sell just pm me please!!!! Oh and i need bird strut mounts unless i have to go adjustable???
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #1 –
Get some '94-'95 GT struts...or if you have lowered the front, get some Fox v8 struts.

Both will mount to the Fox V8 or SN 95 spindles.

As for the rest, I can't tell ya..
'84 Mustang
'98 Explorer 5.0
'03 Focus, dropped a valve seat. yay. freakin' split port engines...
'06 Explorer EB 4.6

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #2 –
I got new strut mounts and rubbers from oriellys. So now i think i need to find some mustang 5lug rotors for 87-93 and run a spacer to get bullits on front and have 11inch brakes all around!!!! Bout got it figured!!
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #3 –
for the 5 lug rotors, 11 inch are 1985 ranger, and use the mustang bearings and seals.
1985 TC (yet another one) Fully loaded
has 225k mile  still with the factory head gasket






84  Turbo ranger  Daily driver  ($800.00 Ebay deal)
          volvo FMIC and more getto rigging than the law should allow

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #4 –
I did that on my 88 stang. Pretty sure that there 10.25 inch and i had .030 machined off the od to clear the brake caliper. I did use the mustang bearings and seal and had to get new dust caps also. Found this trick in one of my old Car Craft mags. Unless 85 ranger is 11". i will check into further. Was wondering if markIIV rotors would work. Will check into this also. Thanks buddy!!!!
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #5 –
You will need to contact QA1 and see what spindle they set their K-member up for as the 94-95 spindle is different than the 96+ spindles.  This has to do with bump steer which can make the car wonder and jerk when hitting bumps in the road.  If they set it up for the 87-93 Fox spindles then use the 94-95 spindles.  These are easily identified by the way the attachment point for the outer tie-rod drops compared to the 96+ units.  You can see the difference here if you scroll down to "4. Modifying '94-95 spindles to accept the '99+ PBR calipers":

http://www.sn95brakes.com/sn95brakes.php

The issue you are going to run into is wheel fitment with the larger hub design of the Fox era brakes.  I did the Mark VII rotor on my 93 Coupe and ran the 97 Cobra wheels as they would work.  It has been upgraded to the SN95 setup and ABS a few years ago.  The Bullet wheels will not work with the large hub design so SN95 brakes will be required for this style of OEM wheel.

The steering column is a collapsible unit and you should be able to get it to extend that much.  I would research this a bit more but I ended up having to compress mine a little bit but I installed a SN95 rack and the Maximum Motorsports hybrid shaft with a Griggs K-member so its completely different than what you are doing.

http://www.car-parts.com is where I found my 96+ spindles for about $35 a pair.  The 94-95 spindles typically sell for anywhere from $100 to $150 a pair due to the limited availability.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #6 –
Yeah i have it all together with t-bird lowers and 90 5.0 spindle n struts. When all put together it moved the wheels(stock t-coupe) outside the wheelwells. And also moved the wheels towards the front of the car. Talk about F-ed up. Im gonna take out the bird lowers and use mustang ones to see if theres that much difference. I always knew there was an inch difference between the two,but there must be other slight differences that im not aware of. Maybe ill have to use the credit card and  get the right stuff instead of messing with used shiznit. keep ya posted.
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #7 –
When I installed my Griggs K-member the 87-88 T-Bird lower control arms (SN95 Mustang lowers) moved the wheels out too far.  I used the correct 83-86 T-Bird lower control arms (87-93 Fox Mustang lowers) and the width issue was solved.  Typically most K-members have some geometry changes in them to move the wheels forward to increase the wheel base on the car.  The Griggs and Maximum Motorsports K-members both move it forward 3/4".  MM offers two lower control arms which move it forward an additional 3/4" or 0".  Griggs also offers two lower control arms of which one moves it forward 3/4" and the other is a severe duty unit which is adjustable from 0" up to an additional 3/4" forward movement.  MM does have a new "street" K-member that does not alter the wheel base as some guys just wanted the other advantages of the tubular K-member without the change in wheel base.

My guess is your QA1 has the forward movement but how much I do not know and the lower control arms may also have additional forward movement.  I would call them or do a search and see what you come up with on the forward movement and the lower control arms.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #8 –
I will call them and find out??? At least you know whats going on. I just wanted a simple bolt in. The hedman hustlers for my 351c will fit way better now i can tell how much more room there is.
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #9 –
Well that k-member is designed to extend wheeel base for drag racing. I need to modify it somewhat to get it to work; Let the fun begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #10 –
Remember, the wheel openings on these older cars were not sized for the 16" wheels like the 90-93 Mustangs were.  If the front wheel is moved too far forward you might get into issues with the front wheel coming into contact with the front fender lip when turning the wheel.  Did you ask the guys at QA1 to see if they offered a lower control arm that would move the wheel back or if they could offer some advice on how to alter the K-member to change the mounting points of the LCA to get it back to where you need it?

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #11 –
I'll get it to work out. I have a 91ho lca on there now with same spindles and strut from mustang 5.0 and t-bird strut mounts. Definately helped with width issues. Still seems a little far forward though. I almost got the tkm all the way back without modding the upper perch n bottom holes.Thats prob plan B. Are 4cly stang lca's shorter than 5.0. Because i used the rack off the mustang i used for parts and the tie rod width was the same as my t-bird. I wonder if these lca i have are for 1inch wider stance on a stang? Or maybe its all in the spindles. IDK i thought it would be a breeze.
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #12 –
From what I remember the 4 cylinder Mustang K-members are narrower than the 5.0 Mustang K-members and the lower control arms are the same.  The only variation in Fox Mustang lower control arms are the SVO units but they are basically the same as the TC and SN95 units.

Read here:

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=27386

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #13 –
Quote from: Aerocoupe;329681
From what I remember the 4 cylinder Mustang K-members are narrower than the 5.0 Mustang K-members and the lower control arms are the same.  The only variation in Fox Mustang lower control arms are the SVO units but they are basically the same as the TC and SN95 units.

Read here:

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=27386

Darren


My SVO had totally different control arms they were not stamped steel .:D
Fox-less at the moment

Need Help???? 94-95 brakes n spindles n strut info

Reply #14 –
I still want to say they are dimensionally the same??? I will do some looking if no one posts up with some tech other than my rusty memory.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp