Its comming. I stopped by my former place of work today (service station where I fixed cars) and get this..
They were modifying the gasoline price signs for an extra digit.
For the americans reading, this may not make much sence: In Canada gas prices have always been advertised as cents per liter.
As in 92.9 cents / liter. Today they added the position for the one on the electronic sign. Must mean prices are expeceted to climb.
$2.24 per gallon.Walking is starting to sound like a good idea,plus,with the money I save on gas,that would be $100 a month to buy parts with.Of course....................
Started adding digits to the signs here today aswell, its been all over the radio. I'm looking at a chevy sprint, or maybe a moped. Could get either for a few hundred
and I'm sure they'll only keep going up. Internal combustion on gasoline is soon to become a thing of the past. What do we have? 10 more years, at best, of petroleum?
makes me worried about whether we'll be able to convert these cars over to a new fuel source or be forced to buy new and have loose s everywhere we look
At current consumption rates (here in the states) we have around 100 years worth of oil in strategic reserves. We'll never see 99 cents a gallon ever again, just because we've been conditioned over the last five years to be okay with paying $1.50+ a gallon. Profits for oil companies have never been higher, so we know there is no going back now. Until the big three domestic auto makers get proactive and drop the lobbyists they have in Washington that push the governement to keep emission standards down for certain vehicles, we'll have to turn to puppiesan for feul efficiency.
Anyone seen the new Escape hybrid? If they really wanted to push the technology and get it out into the market, they wouldn't have a base price of $26000. My dad has been saying for years that I'll see a cold fusion or hydrogen fuel cell car in my lifetime. I can't wait to install Mr. Fusion on my car so I can burn trash as fuel and retro fit it to fly.
So you can walk away from the fast car you have in the garage? :hick:
okay, "affordable" years left. There's plenty of less-desirable locations to obtain oil from but it'll cost a bit more per barrel than current locations. Wouldn't be surprised if its over $5/gallon, before taking into considerating inflation, by 2010
When I first read the title of this thread I thought "I haven't payed THAT little for gas in about 7 years" and then realized it was probably per liter and not per gallon.
I was watching a program on the Discovery Channel a while back that stated The Alaska Pipeline is estimated to be about halfway (if not more) used up. As far as giving up a fast car for fuel economy, the new Lexus RX Hybrid is FASTER than is gas counterpart. I believe the technology is in place to make a fast, light, and economically viable (read: cheap) vehicle that has great fuel economy, however the beaurocratic machine in Washington (amongst other places) is not ready to admit that oil will one day run out. If you squeeze a grape juice will only run down your fingers for so long.......
the better gas miliage that the newer cars get, the more gas is going to go up to make the diffrence. The better technology gets, the worse off we are unless we upgrade with them ed if you do ed if you dont.
The oil guys are hoping we all buy fuel efficient cars. Then they can double the price. We pay the same amount, but only get half as much gas. They make double the profits and their reserve lasts twice as long.
Until we start making our own renewable fuel (such as grain alcohol) we're gonna get boned. The ones in control of the oil have absoltuely no interest in us. They know they can charge what they want, because they know we'll pay it. Much like auto insurance.
i may be talking out of my arse but. i think i may have a point. isnt their some laws about monopolys meaning that if a copany gets to big they have to sell foo some to gain more. so why is it that the oil companies can keep growing with out sacrafice.
like i said im probably wrong and someone will clear things up for me. . (i'll get ready to slap my head)
because they're not based in the US?
Quite simply because the oil companies are powerful enough that the gov't won't dare touch 'em. They've got lots of money, and lots of money equals a big lobbying power. Not to mention that in areas that have a sales tax on top of the price of gas (like here in Nova Scotia, where 15% of the price is sales tax, in ADDITION to the other taxes), the higher price means higher revenue.
'Round here we have the additional problem in that 90% of the local stations are owned by the big oil companies. When, say, Petro Canada (and it's ALWAYS either Petro Canada or Esso) decides they want to raise the price, they call all their local stations and tell them to. At once every Petro Canada in town raises their price. within a few minutes all of the other corporate stations raise their prices too. A few independants will hold the line on the price for a few hours (Wilson's, most particularly). Sometimes they will hold it long enough that the big companies are forced to lower theirs, but more often than not, the big companies simply raise the wholesale price enough that Wilson's is forced to raise their prices (because Wilsons must buy their fuel from the big companies). When the price of gas goes up the station managers say it's because the wholesale price went up. The station owners control the wholesale price. See anything fishy here?
Then, every time the price takes a jump, the public starts crying for regulation. The oil companies counter with their argument that these are global forces that local regulation can't control. They say that regulation will actually INCREASE prices, ignoring the fact that Prince Edward Island, a province with regulated prices, is consistently 10 cents/liter (about 38 cents/gallon) cheaper. Or even more cheaper. I don't think that PEI has had more expensive gas than NS once in the three or four years that this gouging has been going on. The big oil companies will maintain that a free market is better, competition is healthy they say, yet the price of gas does not vary by so much as one tenth of one cent anywhere within 100 miles of Halifax. They're all working together to screw us, and the government turns a blind eye while they rake in the taxes.
Much like auto insurance. We're forced by law to pay it but there are no laws regulating what they can charge us.
We're getting boned.
Indeed. Bio diesel. That's where it's at. There's a place near where I live called Matlock Farms that sells it for $1.35 per gallon.
And in some cases, the oil companies
are the government. *cough*Bush*cough*
No wonder you're coughing. You've got a bush in your throat :D
Does anyone really think we'll see a difference in gas prices once Bush is out of office? (This is assuming we don't end up with another one? I work at a privately-owned Marathon station and a majority of the people that come in blame the entire gas issue on president Bush. They'll say "oh, he's an oil man, he stands to make more money". Is all of this really true? If GWB is so responsible for this in the US then why is it going on in Canada, too?
Because Canada's prices also reflect the ability (or lack) of the US to negotiate terms with OPEC. Not to get into a political debate or anything, but the Bush administration has been far less resilient in dealing with the OPEC nations concerning crude oil prices. The Clinton administration was notorious for using the "tough guy" approach to prices since they knew that Americans needed oil, but also that the OPEC nations wanted our money. Bush is faced with a different situation, not only because of his own interests in oil profits, but also because China has become a major player in buying oil from the Middle East. With two major buyers, it gives OPEC definite leverage over prices.
On a side note, drilling/researching ANWAR is not the solution to the pending energy crisis. Even the optimists know that any potential oil supplied by this area would hardly put a dent in import volume, and it would be far more expensive.
Sorry if this sounds over political! Whoops. :grinno:
Well, it's not hurting me any. I filled up last night for 48.8 C/L! :banana:
you and your propane...
it just went up to 99.9/liter here today, so dollar gas is one tenth of one cent away...
We're only 1 cent behing you at 98.9. We'll see what happens on the 15th when the new pricing comes out here.
Gas in America can't go above 3.75/g. Minimum wage being like 5 something an hour, nobody will be able to afford it. The economy will basicaly fall because nobody will be able to go to work becuase all of their pay check is spent filling up their gas tank.
Around here gas has been going up about $.03 every 3 to 5 days, the highest i've seen so far is 2.10, 2.05 avg around me. I can't afford it. I'm gonna have to quit my job because it's like 20-24 miles to and from my job.
I was working 5 miles away makeing 5.50/hr paying 2.30/gallon
Gas was 2.34 in logan ohio today. Funny thing is the speedway station across the street from the citgo station can be up to 20 cents cheaper somtimes. And the Citgo station is privatly owned. Hasn't happend for a while but it does ocasionally. Plus Citgo station right up the highway is always 5 cents cheaper. But if you go south it is always 5 cents more.
I agree with t0x1k the economy will fail if this keeps up. Us poor people cant afford a hybrid!
And I drive 30 miles into logan to work for 7.52 an hour just to spend 5 bucks a day on gas if I go strait there and strait back. Gota love southern ohio and its hills!
We have a bar in town (yes a bar) that asked the two gas stations next to him not to sell beer so it wouldn't hurt his business. They refused, so he installed gas pumps and has his prices at least two cents a gallon less than the two gas stations do! Last night it was $2.07 a gallon. Only in Iowa.
the Exxon around the corner from me: 87 Octane- $2.33 89 Octane-$2.51 93 Octane-$2.59. They are about $0.10 higher than everyone else and people still go there for some reason. 93 is gonna hit $3.00 before the end of 2005 in my opinion.
89 is higher in NY than 87? Lower here by at least 4 cents a gallon. Probably because of all the corn around here.
http://www.utahgasprices.com/
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http://www.ohiogasprices.com
16 cents higher! WTF?
Whoever said that bio diesel was 1.35 doesnt realize that its probably only about 1%. Down in texas theres bio diesel w/ 30% and it costs 10-20 cents more per gallon
You got me there man. I have no idea what percentage that diesel is. Doesn't matter anyway because I checked with the place last week and they stopped selling it due to lack of demand.
So add that to our 98.9 and we are over $1.00/litre or $1.011/L :bs:
It has actually retreated here a bit - it's down to 95.9 after a high of 99.9
Propane just went down. 48.4c/l ($1.48US per gallon)
Yeah, but it;s still a bit too cold to barbeque... :evilgrin:
Now that's funny :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :rollin:
Gas here in the T.O. area is about 82.5 today,lowest i've seen in weeks.
You crazy? We had a BBQ Sunday night. Set up the new patio, and fired the ol girl up.
Actually I was only poking fun at your propane. I barbeque year-round - I've even been known to do it during snowstorms :D
I have a barbecue in the house (part of my stovetop) so I don't care what the weather is like outside. But, on nice days, there is nothing like being out on the patio, lighting the charcoal and having a cold one while you're waiting for it to be ready for the meat. :hick:
The best part of my trucks fuel is that extra dry line port on the tank, so I can plug my BBQ directly into the truck. :D
So do you take a grill with you everywere? I would:)
Well, the port's there, just not the valve. :(
I'll have to remember that if I ever do the propane project I considered.. :D
We've hit the elusive $100/litre
$1.01 /Litre :mad: or $3.82/ USG
last week we were up to 96.7 p/l and for the past few days it has creeped back down to 85.6 p/l which is nice.
Sorry for the bump but....................
HAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah. Buck twenty seven per liter. Buck thirty for diesel. Per liter.
I think I picked a good time to buy a car that gets 25 mpg as a DD. Even at $5 a gallon it would cost me $60 to fill up every two weeks :).
I pay it, and don't bitch too much. On the other hand, if I don't need to go anywhere, I don't.
What else am I gonna do, walk to f*ckin' work? 'Fraid not, tater tot.
The bottom is soon gonna drop out.
Of everything.
Just to say that price here is 1,84 USD / litre diesel and 1,80 USD gasoline. But most of the cars are puppiesans and germans. We had same price as you have right now about year ago.
You really think 25mpg is decent?
For all city driving with no highway use yes. Stop and go traffic=bad mileage. It's a lot better than the 17 mpg the MN-12 was getting.
Gas in America can't go above 3.75/g. Minimum wage being like 5 something an hour, nobody will be able to afford it. The economy will basicaly fall because nobody will be able to go to work becuase all of their pay check is spent filling up their gas tank.
Around here gas has been going up about $.03 every 3 to 5 days, the highest i've seen so far is 2.10, 2.05 avg around me. I can't afford it. I'm gonna have to quit my job because it's like 20-24 miles to and from my job.
Federal minimum wage is $7 something an hour not $5. Also gas has, and will again go over $4 a gallon. I've personally paid over $4.75/gallon around town and over $5 in the middle of nowhere. This is a 12 year old thread. Lots of out dated information.
There was a point FOUR YEAR AGO where I paid more than that so.......yes, it can; and it HAS.
Old thread bumpage FTW!!!!
I bought my Prius v when gas was $3.75/gal. Not working out so well for me though. :punchballs: :D
Th thread
This thread isnt that old, I mean I was still in high school when it started, now im a divorced 29 year old father of two kids, 8 and 6 years old. Im sure several points are still relevent.