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Technical => Misc Tech => Topic started by: cougarman on March 27, 2012, 09:18:52 PM

Title: speed limiter....
Post by: cougarman on March 27, 2012, 09:18:52 PM
On an '88 Sport is the fuel cutoff regulated by rpm's or indicated speed?:bowdown:
Title: speed limiter....
Post by: cougarman on March 28, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
Anyone???  :bowdown:
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 28, 2012, 11:13:35 AM
I didn't know they had a shutoff to be honest!
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Post by: cougarman on March 28, 2012, 11:51:56 AM
I was showing the taillights to some ricerboy in his Cobalt last night, and the car just layed down at high speed. I let off the gas and it picked back up, so I thought I must have hit some kind of limiter.Dunno.
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 28, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
My car falls flat (stock 5.0 HO) at about 4500 rpm in any gear, lol.  If you look at the stock hp and torque ratings for Fox Mustangs, they make their peak hp at only like 4200 rpms. 

As far as I know they keep pulling until they run out of motor.  When I was younger and dumber I tickled 120 mph with my 'bird a few times.  That was about all she had in her though.  I'm afraid to even try now.  My luck I'd hit a deer or meet a cop, etc.
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 28, 2012, 02:14:59 PM
The TCs have an rpm limiter I don't know about the sports.
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Post by: jpc647 on March 28, 2012, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: cougarman;385409
I was showing the taillights to some ricerboy in his Cobalt last night, and the car just layed down at high speed. I let off the gas and it picked back up, so I thought I must have hit some kind of limiter.Dunno.

Ricerboy in a cobalt? But cobalts are made by GM, lol.
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Post by: cougarman on March 29, 2012, 08:31:18 AM
Quote from: jpc647;385425
Ricerboy in a cobalt? But cobalts are made by GM, lol.
  They are just Toyotas in disguise...lol, and he did a "ricer" flyby after. Tried in again this morning on the way home, and right at 3000 rpm it hit the limiter. Dunno, weird.
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Post by: mcb82gt on March 29, 2012, 09:55:46 AM
Mine is speed limited. 




By my LO PO 5.0
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Post by: Haystack on March 30, 2012, 12:36:01 AM
Lopo's have a limiter near 108mph in 88 only. My wagon does not have one. You can cut the vss wire suposedly without issue, but I have never had an 88, or needed to go over 108mph. The 86-87's definately did not though, and could do well over that if you were stupid enough to. I got the digi dash to 134mph when I was 16.
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Post by: sarjxxx on March 30, 2012, 01:51:25 AM
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They are just Toyotas in disguise...lol, and he did a "ricer" flyby after. Tried in again this morning on the way home, and right at 3000 rpm it hit the limiter. Dunno, weird.

you can't do over 3000 in ANY gear, or just in in OD??
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Post by: cougarman on March 30, 2012, 09:28:10 AM
Quote from: Haystack;385584
Lopo's have a limiter near 108mph in 88 only. My wagon does not have one. You can cut the vss wire suposedly without issue, but I have never had an 88, or needed to go over 108mph. The 86-87's definately did not though, and could do well over that if you were stupid enough to. I got the digi dash to 134mph when I was 16.

Well that is what it is then. If you compute the speed with rpm, gear ratio and tire diameter it comes out right around 108 mph.


Quote from: sarjxxx;385595
you can't do over 3000 in ANY gear, or just in in OD??

I installed 3.55 gears and haven't changed the VSS gear yet, so 3000 is over 100mph. :D
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on March 30, 2012, 11:12:17 AM
Quote from: cougarman;385509
They are just Toyotas in disguise...lol, and he did a "ricer" flyby after. Tried in again this morning on the way home, and right at 3000 rpm it hit the limiter. Dunno, weird.

There is not a Toyota part on a Cobalt. They're GM through and through.

Some 1988's had the speed limiter and some didn't. My 88 Cougar did not, I had it showing 199 km/hr and was still pulling on my sister's ex's '84 Cutlass. My '88 T-bird did have it though.
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 30, 2012, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;385624
There is not a Toyota part on a Cobalt. They're GM through and through.

Some 1988's had the speed limiter and some didn't. My 88 Cougar did not, I had it showing 199 km/hr and was still pulling on my sister's ex's '84 Cutlass. My '88 T-bird did have it though.

 
 My '88 did not have a speed limiter either.  I could swap it over to kph, run it, and then do the math to convert the rated kph over to mph.  I had it up to nearly 120 mph on a long, open stretch of road a couple of times when it was dead stock.  (Again, young and dumb).

That's really odd that some do have limiters and some don't.
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Post by: Haystack on March 30, 2012, 11:33:01 PM
Before I did "bondocougars" 199mph speedo mod, I maxed my speedo out on kph a lot. I was a really stupid kid. I remember doing cigarette runs to nevada and wyoming when I was 18(19 is legal age in utah.). I would get to either state line, buy a carton of smokes, and be back in less then 2 hours. At the speedlimit(75 for nevada, 65 for wyoming) both take over an hour and a half each way. I always made fun of all my freinds when we took there cars because of how "long" it took us to make the trip because of their speed limiters.

I could have killed myself so many times. One day just like switching a light switch I just got over it. I don't think I have even maxxed out my crownvics 85mph speedo come to think of it. And we used to have a 80mph speed limit right down the street. I only maxed out my old thunderbirds once, and that's because I wasn't watching my speed in thesame 80mph speed limit.
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Post by: Dougy_Fresh on March 31, 2012, 12:14:19 AM
why did I get reamed by some of the very same people who contributed to this thread when i mentioned how fast my old bird would go? everyone claimed that they ALL shut off at 108 and that i was a bold faced lier for claiming anything over that.

with that said, my pregnant fiancee called me a while back and told me she was having extreme stomach pains and i held my 88 v6 bird on the floor for almost 8 miles. when i finally let off i coasted for almost 3/4 of a mile before the speedo said 84
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Post by: cougarman on March 31, 2012, 08:37:59 AM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;385624
There is not a Toyota part on a Cobalt. They're GM through and through.

Some 1988's had the speed limiter and some didn't. My 88 Cougar did not, I had it showing 199 km/hr and was still pulling on my sister's ex's '84 Cutlass. My '88 T-bird did have it though.

Yea just joking about the Cobolt, but saying they are "GM through and through" isn't saying alot.....lol. :D
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Post by: Beau on March 31, 2012, 12:07:33 PM
On my '88 3.8 car, I ran it one night till it just wouldn't go any faster, didn't have any "cut off" issue. As far as my Sport, I've never had the sack to push it it as fast as it will go, with either engine.

On a public road???
Nuts.
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Post by: Haystack on March 31, 2012, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: Dougy_Fresh;385659
why did I get reamed by some of the very same people who contributed to this thread when i mentioned how fast my old bird would go? everyone claimed that they ALL shut off at 108 and that i was a bold faced lier for claiming anything over that.

with that said, my pregnant fiancee called me a while back and told me she was having extreme stomach pains and i held my 88 v6 bird on the floor for almost 8 miles. when i finally let off i coasted for almost 3/4 of a mile before the speedo said 84

When I was 16, I did some stupid stuff, just like I said in your thread. I would never come close to the cut off now, but now I have some things to work for, and little people to take care of. I have more depending on me, then just me.

And if your wife is pregnent, it usually takes hours before you need any care of any type, and your better off alive then dead. For your sake, the kid and yours. Say you blow out a tire, hit something in the road, over react or turn too sharp. It only takes once.
 
As a 16-18 year old I felt invincable, and did a lot of stupid things. I smartened up before it was too late, and I hope you do too.
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Post by: Beau on April 01, 2012, 01:37:25 AM
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As a 16-18 year old I felt invincible.

I did too.
The I attended about 5 funerals over a 3 month period...all under 20 years old. When it's kids your own age laying there in that box, it changes you beyond shag-all. Or at least it did me.
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Post by: cougarman on April 01, 2012, 08:22:31 AM
Come up and visit the great state of Michigan, on US23 either you do 80 or above or you'll get run over....lol. :D  (even the cops don't stop ya)
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on April 01, 2012, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: Dougy_Fresh;385659
why did I get reamed by some of the very same people who contributed to this thread when i mentioned how fast my old bird would go? everyone claimed that they ALL shut off at 108 and that i was a bold faced lier for claiming anything over that.

with that said, my pregnant fiancee called me a while back and told me she was having extreme stomach pains and i held my 88 v6 bird on the floor for almost 8 miles. when i finally let off i coasted for almost 3/4 of a mile before the speedo said 84

 
That's always a good idea with a pregnant person in the vehicle.:punchballs:
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Post by: 1Bad88tbird on April 03, 2012, 01:09:41 PM
Quite a few years ago, probably early 90's, a few friends and I were going to a car show. We had a guy decide to mess with everyone. He was cutting in and out between cars and taunting our group. Before he got to me a couple of the guys behind me had had enough and jumped out behind him and started chasing him. I joined in once they past me and got beside one of the guys, my speedo was maxed out at 85 but it had pulled pretty strong past that. When we got to where we were going I asked him how fast we were going when we were side by side he said 130. I knew we were going fast because the car actually felt like it was lifting, it felt very light. That was with the original 7.5 rear with 2.73 gears. It was a very long mostly straight strech of road. I was old enough to know better but I got caught up in the moment. I know I was lucky nothing happened and now that I'm older I still like to play, but I don't go anywhere neer that fast. But after swapping the rear to an 8.8 with 3.55s it acts like it has the speed limiter. I've finally got a speedo gear that is pretty accurate now so it does go a little higher than when we did the swap but it still seems to have a limiter. It's wierd, you would think no matter what rear it would be the same. Sorry for being so long but I thought I'd share.