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Messages - GrannysBird

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Electrical Tech / Column Connector Diagram
Hiya guys, I'm currently in the process of rewiring my car and so far my ford service manual has been pretty useful. But many of the wire colors listed in the manual are not matching up to what I have in my own column connectors. I was wondering if anyone had a diagram of the connectors on the column that will save me some of the guess work out in the heat this week.

If not I guess tracing will do.

Thanks,

Anthony
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Misc Tech / Fan Clutch Selection
So to update after installation: Holy shiznit, why did I ever use an electric fan? My A/C is colder and the car can idle with ease without the load from the e-fan. YMMV but I have a fairly aggressive cam and even with a 130 amp alternator the load of the A/C and fan both kicking on forced me to run an excessively high idle speed or alternatively enriching the A/F ratio to keep the car from stumbling. Temperature wise the engine stays at 195 which just so happens to coincide with the temperature rating of the thermostat, so I'm pretty happy as well there. If you're not drag racing, or racing, and want to retain your A/C (especially if you're running 134a) I'd highly recommend using this setup or something similar. I'm not running an automatic transmission so the standard duty clutch seems to work fine for me, but YMMV if you've got some high stall non-lockup AOD and are running A/C.

I'll be doing a longer road test later tonight and tomorrow so if anything goes awry I'll be sure to let you all know.

In case anyone wishes to duplicate my setup and retain a traditional clutch fan, here are the parts I used:

9 Bladed reverse rotation fan from a 1999 to 2004 Chevy Silverado

Hayden Standard Duty clutch 2739* (*I think) for a 1995 Chevy Blazer 4.3

87-88 Thunderbird/Cougar Fan shroud
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Misc Tech / Window Tearing Away From Plastic Clips
There's a saying among a group of racers I worked with, "It's not built until it's Team Mercury overbuilt." and it definitely applies to your window channels Tom. My question is whether or not you've ever had to remove a window placed within one of your tracks? I can just imagine needed to do some bodywork someday and cursing myself for so thoroughly installing my windows.

I guess you could just light the adhesive on fire, which I totally didn't do to remove those aluminum clips I mentioned earlier, to relax the adhesive along those tracks.
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Misc Tech / Fan Clutch Selection
So a little information for yall: A mustang fan is much smaller in diameter than whatever came on our cars as can be seen in the photo below.

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So yup. At this point in time I guess I'm either waiting to grab my other fan shroud sitting at my buddies out of town or grabbing a 20 inch fan off of another vehicle.

Also, I know this is a small community, but I feel like this forum would benefit from either some moderation or some guidelines. If someone wanted to search for information about fan clutches they'd have to sift through 2 pages of irrelevant content just to follow the actual thread. Maybe it's just irksome to me, sigh...
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Misc Tech / Window Tearing Away From Plastic Clips
Quote from: grutinator;436669
they came out with a fix for that. it was replacement beige clips that had small bolts you could run in and snug up against the glass. (obviously not tight). but between the the bolt and adhesive it did the fix. i haven't seen any in years but you might be able to find some if you searched around.

Haha! The turbcoupe I'm currently stripping for parts has these! Which is good, because google failed to produce any real results.
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Misc Tech / Window Tearing Away From Plastic Clips
Hey have any of you guys had the issue with your windows tearing away from the silicone in those beige plastic clips and then getting stuck sideways? At first I thought it was just old age on the part of the silicone and the clips so I removed the window, cleaned the glass and the clips, and finally reinstalled with new silicone. I waited 24 hours and all seemed well and good after I tested it. Then the weather got a bit colder and the same clip tore loose again. I'm just curious as to whether or not there is something I can do to lube the tracks or else figure out why my window keeps coming undone?

I'd like to put my door panel back on at some point.
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Misc Tech / Fan Clutch Selection
Quote from: mcb82gt;436565
I just bought the standard duty fan from Oreilly auto parts.  Not sure if you have them there?

Just a standard duty replacement.  Looked it up online, looks like it was the Hayden part http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/HDN0/2723/03389.oap?year=1988&make=Mercury&model=Cougar&vi=1198605&ck=Search_03389_1198605_826&pt=03389&ppt=C0331

Yup I've got an oreilly's just down the block, but I tend to go to napa if I can help it. For my application though I'll be going with hayden 2705 or 2765 since my car will soon be standard rotation. First though I need to find a 20 inch fan.
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Misc Tech / Fan Clutch Selection
Quote from: Aerocoupe;436550
Get a DCC Controller and call it a day.  I have had mine on the Coupe for over six years and still keeping it cool in Houston and Oklahoma heat in the summer.  They are not the cheapest but not the most expensive either.

http://www.dccontrol.com/selector.htm

Darren

Well I'm still not sure if I can fit a clutch fan, but if I can't that controller seem many times better than what I'm running.

Quote from: mcb82gt;436555
I have used the DCC piece on my old 2.3Turbo stang.  Great piece, never let me down.  I plan on using one again with my Mark/Taurus fan with my current car.

My fan clutch went to  and I replaced it with a standard duty(wanted the cheapest because I planned on going E fan later).  I has cooled my car well and the AC is very cold, and it gets  hot and humid in KS, heat index 110+.  It will keep me as cool or cooler than my 06 Silverado HD, which will freeze my arse off.

Yes, this is exactly what I wanted to find out! The biggest benefit to the mechanical fan to me at least is having cooler a/c, with my current electrical it's lackluster at best which is especially apparent when driving my 00 silverado (which has a mechanical fan ;) )

Quote from: TOM Renzo;436557
Build a fan system with redundancy. Never run a single fan setup and wire them to come on at different temps. Use 2 75AMP bosch relays one for each fan and a temp, sender for each fan and you problems are over. Clutch FANS are garbage and by the way can also fail. Especially aftermarket ones. No one uses clutch fans anymore. that is unless you have a 100 point car. Have a great evening.
Here is a setup i just finished for an early Camaro. I even made custom brackets to eliminate the ugly stock upper radiator plate. And whipped up some fancy mounting brackets as well. JR as usual painted them PORSCHE GRAY. The kid is impossible


But, that's soo much more money Tom! There are so many places where that money could be better spent! And the wiring, at this point in time if I get rid of the E fan I would only have ~5 wires in my engine bay (discounting headlight wiring and windshield wiper motor)! Down with the wires!

At this point though it's all academic as I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to do something about the radiator support if I want to add a mechanical fan. Still, now that I know that a standard duty will work just fine with my a/c I can at least gather parts or dimensions and head out from there.

Mike where did you buy your clutch? It seems like Hayden is the only name in the game so that's what I'll be going with when I do order one.

P.S. Those are some beautiful brackets and overall a very nice install Tom.
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Suspension/Steering / lowering springs
Quote from: kylesburrell;436488
^^Cutting springs will lower the car. But with lowering springs you can get stiffer springs. You can get progressive spring rates or constant spring rates. I noticed that my car dives A LOT LESS under braking with stiffer springs

But cutting the springs does change the spring rate as it is a function of coil diameter, number of coils, and thickness of the steel used to make the coil.

**SpringRate = (Thickness)/(nCoils*CoilDiameter)

So with all things being equal reducing nCoils increases ones spring rate, so yippee!

**This functional relation was obtained from the internet @ http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/coilspringrate.shtml and is being posted onto the internet by someone someone on the internet no warranty written, expressed, or implied.  All risk is assumed on the part of the user.
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Misc Tech / Fan Clutch Selection
After staring at my engine bay for a long time and in the spirit of ever simplifying my automobile I'm taking the plunge back to a mechanical fan setup. Now while Hayden recommends the use of their HD fan clutch for cars with ac (which I plan on always retaining) I'm curious as to whether or not any of y'all are running either an SD or HD fan clutch in your foxes? I'm wondering if an SD can keep up with the AC or if I should just commit to a little fan roar with the HD clutch if it means rock hard nipple temperatures in the bird.

The final straw that broke this camel's back was my 2nd fan controller taking a dive while driving in the middle of traffic on a warm July day...

Thoughts and opinions are welcome.