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My other project... FINISHED

Reply #15 – August 02, 2006, 03:08:57 PM

Well, if you have a Socket 939 motherboard (if it's Socket 754, I think youre out of luck) and want a dual core, the X2 3800+ at $153 is a great deal. You can also step up to the 4200+ for $195 or even a 4400+ for $265. Also, are you lookin for a good heatsink for your computer? I've got a really nice Socket 754/939 heatsink I want to get rid of.

As for Intel, yeah, they really messed up with the whole P4 line. But now they're doing the exact opposite. A $220 Intel E6300 at 1.86GHz beats out a ~$400 AMD X2 at 2.4GHz. Thats a very impressive turn around from the lackluster P4s imo. Their new chips also overclock like mofookies to add even more of an advantage.

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Reply #16 – August 02, 2006, 03:22:32 PM

I believe the 4400+ comes with a good heat pipe-based heat sink. I'll be using what's on the machine for now until I can get that chip.

As far as performance between the two.. I'm sure it'll change in time. Intel led for awhile, then AMD led for a couple years, now Intel may lead for a little while, then AMD will get it back eventually. Not that it really matters since I don't buy top of the line components anymore.. the last time I did that was a 9700 Pro back when it was the king of the hill. I just can't justify spending $400+ on one piece of computer hardware when this whole base system cost that much.. and when I'd much rather be spending money on my cars or truck.

Eventually I'll have a 4400+ in this, and that'll last me for a year or two more.. I'll probably toss in a couple cheap Seagate SATA drives with 16 megs of cache each.. and that'll be it until the next time to upgrade. It would be more important to me to have the ability to host all the TV shows and what not that I've downloaded on one main drive shared across the network than it would be to have raw speed. (one show alone took up something like 30 gigs) I've had this main 300 gig drive for a couple months now and I've already had to do housecleaning on it several times. (and no, it's not porn.. hah)

I'd actually rather focus a little more attention on this Linux box I'm using as a second PC. It's an XP 2200+ with 768 megs of RAM and a 40 gig hard drive, and a truly pathetic old video card.. I think like a Radeon 9200 or something. I'm giving serious consideration to running my own forum for all Fox bodies, and I am going to try to run it on the Linux box. I'm hoping my connection is fast enough to support a small forum.

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Reply #17 – August 02, 2006, 03:33:19 PM

Quote from: Bird351

I believe the 4400+ comes with a good heat pipe-based heat sink. I'll be using what's on the machine for now until I can get that chip.

As far as performance between the two.. I'm sure it'll change in time. Intel led for awhile, then AMD led for a couple years, now Intel may lead for a little while, then AMD will get it back eventually. Not that it really matters since I don't buy top of the line components anymore.. the last time I did that was a 9700 Pro back when it was the king of the hill. I just can't justify spending $400+ on one piece of computer hardware when this whole base system cost that much.. and when I'd much rather be spending money on my cars or truck.

I'd actually rather focus a little more attention on this Linux box I'm using as a second PC. It's an XP 2200+ with 768 megs of RAM and a 40 gig hard drive, and a truly pathetic old video card.. I think like a Radeon 9200 or something. I'm giving serious consideration to running my own forum for all Fox bodies, and I am going to try to run it on the Linux box. I'm hoping my connection is fast enough to support a small forum.

Yeah, I hear that AMD's factory HSFs are pretty good, but if you want something a bit better for OCing or something, I can hook ya up

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I agree about paying $400+ for a single part. My best friend is about to buy and build a 100% top of the line PC ($1,000 Intel X6800 CPU, which alone costs more than my whole build) and I tried talkin him out of the crazy stuff like that, but he wouldn't listen. Oh well, he did work his tail off all summer (a construction job in the morning and busing tables in the evening 6 days a week, all summer long), so he deserves it. But the difference performance wise between his $3000 machine and my $1000 will be hardly noticable.

As for my Tbird, my dad and I have a whole HO conversion waiting for it once the Chevelle is done (if we can ever get it finished...), so I figured it's time to give my PC some lovin. I try to take turns. Do something for the computer, do something for the car. Get a PC part, get a car part, etc etc.

And I dont know if you want a forum for ALL fox bodies; do you know how many 5.0 Stang guys will be there? It'll bring that computer to its knees haha. :flame:

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Reply #18 – August 02, 2006, 03:46:29 PM

Well I'm not going to tell Stang people they can't join.. but I'll make it clear that the site is for the "other" Fox bodies.. the less popular stuff. (Fairmonts, Zephyrs, the Fox Granada, the box-bird and box-cat, Fairmont Durango, Capri, etc.)

The Stang has tons of sites, I'm sure.. the T-bird and Cougar have this place, CougarNuts, and I think TCCOA and stuff like that, right? Marks and Fox Contis have Lincolns Online and perhaps another forum I think LoL is sort of at odds with. (I don't recall very well) The rest of the Fox bodies have ford-fox.org, but that place is INSANELY slow to load, and seems to go entire days without a post.. if the guy can even be bothered to run it at all. (it was down for a few months because the guy forgot about it or something) Of course it's assumed at places like this that the other Fox guys can hang around, but I'd like to see a little more said about the other Foxes. Out of the 15 cars I've owned since I started driving, 7 have been Fox bodies. (1 Mont engine donor, 2 Capris, 2 T-birds, 2 LSCs) I think it's safe to say I'm a fan of the platform as a whole. :p

Back closer to the topic: I may have my X850XT overclocked a little bit, but I don't really do the heavy overclocking thing anymore. It used to be that I had plenty of spare CPUs in case I burned one up, but now this is the only Socket 939 chip I have.. and even if I get that 4400+ anytime soon, it's likely that this 3200+ would get its own SFF to go into for my fiance or my mother to use.. so I wouldn't exactly have a spare. For comparison, there are at least half a dozen Socket A chips in this room alone.. from one of the first Durons ever made. (a 650 I bought the week they came out) to an XP 2300+ OEM-only chip. I could toss them around like toys if I wanted to.

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Reply #19 – August 02, 2006, 04:11:02 PM

I cant tell the diffrence between the 3500+ with 1 gig of ram, and my 350 mhz with 64 megs when it come to looking at the forums. There is just no reason to have a fast computer unless you do alot of video or graphics editing or nothing but games. Where I almost never play games on the computer anymore, it means that $400 is too much for a computer. I buy computers for $50 or there abouts and peice together old parts from others.

In my opinion its the only way, but I am like that with all the fords littered around the yard too.

I can respect a fast computer. There cool, but I wont be owning one for quite some time.

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Reply #20 – August 02, 2006, 04:53:56 PM

That's cool that you have good luck with old computers. I personally havent, nor has anyone I know, but if you can salvage a good running PC from s parts (which my best friend and I did throughout an afternoon so my parents had a temporary computer to use), then thats awesome. I love doing stuff like that.

******Budget PC build update******

After a little searching around, I found an ATi X1800XT for $229, which will save me $40 and still perform just as well. With that extra money, I will be able to step up to the next Core 2 Duo CPU on the ladder, the E6400, which comes stock at 2.13GHz and has a higher multiplier than the E6300. I'll still have $15 left over in savings, too! I plan to preorder the CPU within the next couple of days.

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Reply #21 – August 02, 2006, 10:34:29 PM

Nice! AMD Prices are down? I might have to score myself a dual-core for this bitch. Right now I'm rocking a lowly Athlon 64 3000+ with a decent 1G of Ballistix RAM. It does ok on certain games, but other it's a poop.

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Reply #22 – August 03, 2006, 12:10:38 AM

Quote from: Ifixyawata

Nice! AMD Prices are down? I might have to score myself a dual-core for this bitch. Right now I'm rocking a lowly Athlon 64 3000+ with a decent 1G of Ballistix RAM. It does ok on certain games, but other it's a poop.

Tell me about it, I'm still stuck with a 32bit CPU haha. It actually runs new games surprisingly well (like FEAR at maxed out CPU settings).

And yeah, if you want a Socket 939 dual core, or if you want to upgrade to the new AM2 socket, now is the perfect time.

***Another budget build update***

After finding my motherboard for $20 less, I am going to get some better RAM. Something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146107

MMMM, look at those timings! Anyways, I might get that stick of RAM now, and get a 2nd stick after I sell off my current PC. That is going to run REALLY nice.

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Reply #23 – August 10, 2006, 11:18:55 PM

Another update:

My processor has been shipped out and should be here Tuesday. For my birthday (which was on the 8th), I'm getting an aftermarket CPU heatsink, UV reactive cables, and two 4in UV cathodes. I plan to have all of my other parts ordered around the first week of September.

If anyone has looked, almost all stores have raised the price significantly of their Core 2 Duos (due to low supply), and now the E6400 I ordered for $245 sells for $290. Phew, glad I got it early.

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Reply #24 – August 12, 2006, 11:02:02 AM

tell me you got a 10,000 RPM SATA drive for the little bit in price diffence.
Your paging it going to be through the roof with a slower hard drive.
especially for gaming when you will need the data retrieval for texture mapping.

I didn't read it all, been away from the boards for a bit.

also, make sure your psu is a stable one (ie, antec or something else good) the core duo's freak out if they don't have a steady voltage signal.

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Reply #25 – August 14, 2006, 04:18:18 PM

I'm getting a Core 2 Duo. They use less power than their predecessors :) (and are much much much faster). And my current PSU has been stable for the 10 months I've had it, so I'm good there.

As for the HDD, there is actually a big price difference to a 10k rpm. A 150GB, 10k rpm, 16MB cache HDD costs about double of the 250 GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache drive I'm getting. A 7200 rpm drive with 16mb of cache works great with gaming. 10k rpm drives are only for those with plenty of extra money; unfortunatley, I'm not one of those people. :(

Since I was at the DMV this morning, I wasnt home to recieve and sign for the processor delievery, so now I gotta wait till 6:00pm and take a 20min drive to pick it up

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Also, here's a video of a stock E6400 C2D doin it's job: Running two games and browsing the internet without any slowdown :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEKLCvJfDjs

****BIG UPDATE****

Hell yeah.

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Reply #26 – August 16, 2006, 09:32:04 PM

i still live and breath amd/nforce... can't help it, they have never done me wrong.

I have about 6 machines I have put together and have been keeping going buy using the s from work. it is amazing what a large company will just get rid off. off lease shiznit that is a few years old does them no good, but makes a great video or domain server if you are crafty enough!!!

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Reply #27 – August 17, 2006, 02:13:45 AM

I've got 3 AMD powered PCs in my house right now, and they're all great. My 3 year old XP 2800+ still runs awesome; just the other night, I tested it out by running Counter Strike Source, iTunes, AIM, MSN, and firefox at the same time. No problems or slowdown. Not bad for such an aging piece of hardware.

I also think it's funny to note that I'll be going from an AMD/nVidia machine to an Intel/ATi machine.

As for an update, I got some nice news: I'll be ordering some more stuff tomorrow! My case, hard drive, heatsink, and UV reactive cables. My UV Cathodes are already on their way too. It's gettin there!

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Reply #28 – August 19, 2006, 12:13:06 AM

haha. i am on a 1600+ with a gefore mx 440

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Reply #29 – August 19, 2006, 12:58:38 AM

Ah man, my current comp had an INTEGRATED Geforce 4MX 64MB. I love how those cards have 0 pixel shaders...

In other news, my cathodes arrived today and if UPS delivers on Saturday, I'll have my case, hard drive, aftermarket heatsink, and my extra cables. If not, I'll have to dreadfully wait till Monday :( .

Also, there has been a tweak made to my system:

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220095

I'll be ordering the RAM after my next paycheck (which will be on the 31st). That just leaves my motherboard and graphics card, and I'm done.