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Title: Who has guns?
Post by: sarjxxx on January 02, 2011, 11:11:45 PM
Just came back from the gun show today and I decided its time to see if anyone else here is into another popular hobby other than cars. Namely, Weapons.

I have just started collecting weapons but here so far is what I've got. First off there is my nightstick. pretty straightforward, although a little bent...:rolleyes:

Next there is my Smith and Wesson knife, with a 5" double sided carbide blade, and a leg strap I just picked up for it.

Then there is my Ruger P95 9mm s/a with 2 15rd magazines, and de-pen 15ing safety. I wanted to get a S/W Sigma but I wound up getting the Ruger b/c it was a better deal at the time and still a very nice gun.

I will be sending in for my FL CWP pretty soon. I don't plan to carry the Ruger, at least not very often, its a pretty heavy gun, but I still want to have the license for when I do carry. I'm planning on getting a smaller 5/6 shot S/W or Ruger to use as a CC, but I think the next gun I would like to get would be a shotgun, still not sure what though.

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(http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n567/sarjxxx/2011-01-02224051.jpg)

Oh yeah, and :america:
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Scott D on January 02, 2011, 11:20:09 PM
I've got two Cav-15's ...one with a BCM 16" Mid-length upper, the other with an LMT 16" Carbine upper. I've also got a Glock 26, a Colt CR6724 (Accurized Rifle)
The wife has a Glock 19 & Winchester '94 Golden Spike
Between the two ankle biters, there's a single shot 410, a Henry .22, and a Cricket .22
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on January 02, 2011, 11:45:38 PM
A couple of old .22 rifles, one is a single shot Winchester my grandfather bought when he was about 10...have a Winchester shotgun and .30-30, as well as a Taurus .38spl, and lastly, but  sure not least, a 1917 Enfield .303 British. Magnificient killing device. It's very likely killed more people in 3 wars (or more) than I'll ever imagine. To think, I own a perfect working condition rifle that's already 60 years older than me...kinda puts things in perspective.

Dad has 5 .303s, one of which was one of the bunch that Savage was contracted out. Odd seeing a "Property of US" stamp on the side of an English rifle, lol.

FWIW, I will refuse to call ANY firearm a weapon, unless it's a crime scene we're discussing. Firearm, pistol, rifle, knife, personal safety tool, hell, even gun sounds better to the unkowing, uninitiated, and the sheep who even think a bb gun is a terrorist plot..

Anyway, as you can tell, I support the right to keep and arm bears...or something like that, lol
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: jcassity on January 03, 2011, 01:11:38 AM
got many and concealed permit.
Got a long story for ya about knives though,, they arent allowed or can be observed as a consealed weapon even in the holster.  Having said that, if the blade exceeds 3 1/2'' and it is in the holster,,,AND you have it simply on your belt, an officer could consider that a consealed weapon.

AND>>>>>>>>>>> there is on law anywhere in this land that allows a knife to be used for protection legally and as a concealed weapon.  The law********FORCES** you to use a gun as the laws are written.

just go to your state police and ask for copies of the laws reguarding concealed weapons.

Now,, the wierd part is this,,,,,,,,
If you are stopped and in a car wearing your hunting gear, the knife on your belt no longer is a concealed weapon but rather it becomes a TOOL!!.  Same goes for a Chef who has several knives in a case concealed in his car, where it is obvious or apparent to the officer that the said knives are now TOOLS.

On the flip side, you cant carry a knife on an airplane and no tools shall exceed 7''.  However, TSA allows knitting needles the max length of 11'' made of any material because they consider them as a hobby tool.
So my gerber that i carry no longer has a blade because for some dumb ass reason, it being stowed with all my other tools , it is not a tool but a knife.

My babble was long, sorry but I thought i would share with you the things you better learn right off the bat when having that stuff and how you have it as to not give someone a reason to add trumped up charges on top of any situation you may find yourself in.

My fav gun , muy Wafinfabric m81 41cal rimfire and yes its old.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: 86XR7project on January 03, 2011, 09:09:28 AM
I started a similar thread a while back, had some decent pics in it. Feel free to add to it.

I have a 1942 Mosin Nagant ex sniper, Remington 788, and a Remington 510. Pics in my thread.

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?25133-Anyone-into-guns&highlight=
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Bruce M on January 03, 2011, 10:14:19 AM
I have a NEF single shot 20 GA, Rem. 22 bolt action, and a Taurus PT24/7 9mm. My next gun well be a Rem. 870 pistol grip.
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/BruceM88/Guns/loganandus179.jpg)
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/BruceM88/Guns/loganandus180.jpg)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 03, 2011, 12:00:40 PM
Not into handguns (which I suppose will change if I follow through with the RCMP thing), but I've got a Remington model 700 .30-06 and an ancient 12 guage side-by-side. I'm hoping to get a bolt action .22 soon, because they are a hell of a lot of fun and dirt cheap to use for target practice (something like $3 for a box of 50 bullets).
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: LittleAngel1198 on January 03, 2011, 02:39:20 PM
I have a .22 Jennings, a .22 rifle, a 20 gage shotgun, a flint lock, and when my father-in-law passes away, I will get back the black powder 45 I gave him for Christmas a few years ago that originally belonged to my dad.

I am hoping to get a 30-30 before too long, and I would also like to pick up another handgun or two... not really picky but I do hope to get a 357 magnum to add to my collection.

Along with my guns, we have what we call an arsenal, of no less than 15 swords and knives. Our whole family collects them.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: hypostang on January 03, 2011, 02:40:20 PM
No firearms in my house . Not necessarily my choice
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Romeo2k on January 03, 2011, 03:18:55 PM
No firearms for me yet, That's Dads hobby.
Though I do have random airsoft guns, pellet guns and display knives.

I wouldn't mind having Dad's service weapon though... (Colt AR-15). ;)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Dansbirds on January 03, 2011, 03:26:44 PM
No guns here, just never got into them. My son shot trap when he was in high school and my brother in law is a gunsmith so certainly not against them
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Sancho on January 03, 2011, 03:47:22 PM
Little of this and a little of that, good to exercise ones rights.  It would be more fun if ammo was cheaper,  mostly I only shoot .22's regularly anymore.  Do a lot of hunting throughout the whole winter still, limb chickens, deer and such.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: sarjxxx on January 03, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
Quote from: jcassity;348215
got many and concealed permit.
Got a long story for ya about knives though ...stuff....

My fav gun , muy Wafinfabric m81 41cal rimfire and yes its old.

 
Yes, believe me I know about all that. I have already been through my concealed courses along with a class D & G FL security guard classes. FL is a little different though, where if you are open carrying a knife, its not considered a concealed, even if it is sheathed as long as it is plainly apparent that it is indeed a knife. (at least that's how I came to understand it) ...either way you've gotta be pretty ballsy to go strutting about with a friggin 5" knife on your belt. lol I tried it once just to see what kind of reactions I would get and a lot of people get a little weary. Course I don't blame em heh.

But if you are carying a pocket knife over 4" and its in your pocket, not on it, it is considered a C/W and therefore illegal:rolleyes: I carry a razor blade knife on my pocket so I'm good.;)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: sarjxxx on January 03, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;348211

FWIW, I will refuse to call ANY firearm a weapon, unless it's a crime scene we're discussing. Firearm, pistol, rifle, knife, personal safety tool, hell, even gun sounds better to the unkowing, uninitiated, and the sheep who even think a bb gun is a terrorist plot..

Anyway, as you can tell, I support the right to keep and arm bears...or something like that, lol


I wasn't referring to firearms specifically, I just meant feel free to post about other things besides guns;)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on January 04, 2011, 03:06:13 AM
I understand, wasn't at all picking on ya:D:bowdown:
Just to me, sounds like bad intent calling an innocent hunting rifle a weapon.


Now that Cole is pretty pr0ne to getting into things he ought not, I need to get a gun safe and keep my stuff locked up. None are loaded in the house, and the cartridges are up on the top shelf in my bedroom closet (even I have to have a chair to reach 'em) but I'd feel a lot safer if they were behind a lock...

I was just thinking earlier tonight at work of when they're a little older, taking them shooting with the .22 rifles that their great grandfather bought almost  70 years ago...:bowdown:

It reminds of when he took me out in the pasture up north here and let me shoot the little bolt .22 he had, all those years ago...
not to brag, but I was pretty  accurate with a .22 at 8 years old lol. Made (and won) a 100 dollar bet when I was 11 that I could hit a golf ball at 100 yards with that .22...
:shakeass:
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: sarjxxx on January 04, 2011, 04:27:08 PM
THats exactly what you need to do.

Take them out while they're still little and teach them how to properly and safely use a gun. I remember when I was just 11/12 I got my first air rifle and I still to this day remember things I learned when I was learning how to aim it and what NOT to do with it, ....like point it downrange when someones there, loaded or unloaded. Things like that will stick in they're heads, and if you take them out often and let them use them, they'll be far less pr0ne to try to sneak about and do stupid things they don't otherwise know any better not to.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: vinnietbird on January 04, 2011, 05:51:04 PM
I have a Glock 9 mil. It's for safety. Other than that,I'm not interested in them. That's money I could spend on the car,which I can enjoy a lot more often,anywhere there's a road.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on January 04, 2011, 05:59:41 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;348362
I have a Glock 9 mil. It's for safety. Other than that,I'm not interested in them. That's money I could spend on the car,which I can enjoy a lot more often,anywhere there's a road.

 
I'm with you on this. I'm not big into guns, and don't have one yet, but within a month I will be getting a .380, for protection in case something were to ever happen, it's not a very big pistol, but enough to keep someone off if need be, hopefully I will never have to use it.  I will also be going through the concealed carry class. because of my work we travel a lot, and sometimes don't stay in the best of 'hoods. My aluminum baseball bat that I keep under the bed will be retiring....lol
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on January 04, 2011, 06:34:02 PM
I'd recommend something a bit bigger than a .380....I've shot one, felt like a trumped up bb gun...
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Dave D on January 04, 2011, 06:44:51 PM
I picked up these babies last week!
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Dave D on January 04, 2011, 06:56:17 PM
I picked up these babies last week!
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: sarjxxx on January 04, 2011, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: Dave D;348370
I picked up these babies last week!

 
YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nerfs awesome. I want to get those nerf mideival weapons and get my friends together so we can whack on each other with foam swords and axes:rollin:
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on January 04, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;348369
I'd recommend something a bit bigger than a .380....I've shot one, felt like a trumped up bb gun...

I've shot a .380 before (just about every one of my co-workers are heavily into firearms - it was kinda cool to shoot a .50 cal Desert Eagle though) it would be just enough to stop or scare somebody if need be.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Sancho on January 04, 2011, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;348369
I'd recommend something a bit bigger than a .380....I've shot one, felt like a trumped up bb gun...

 
Are you sure you've shot and handled one? Most .380 Auto's are tough to shoot because with a few exceptions they are very small and concealable and having a short sight radius that makes things tough on the shooter.  Compounded with that is the small amount of recoiling mass, and narrow frame widths, to absorb the inertia and your left with a gun that is not comfortable to shoot for long periods of time.

Additionally, .380 Auto bullets (aka 9mm Kurz) is the exact same size as a 9mm bullet with 2mm less case length.  The loads Ive seen tested for both overlap, granted at the lower end of the penetration spectrum but none the less they overlap.  If your using it for protection and using a typical self defense load in a 380 you will more than covered in the "is the hammer big enough?" department.  As with everything else, it doesn't matter if you have a .22 short or a 454 casull if you dont practice with what your going to carry/stake your life on then its not something you can truly depend on.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on January 04, 2011, 09:56:29 PM
Yup. It was pretty hard to keep on target too. That's was why I said it was a poor choice, also among the reasons you mentioned.
But if one was to put a thousand practice rounds through it, I suppose it'd be fine for a personal safety tool.

Personally, I'd want something with a little more knock 'em down and keep 'em down power though. It's all in what you're comfortable with, what your hand fits to, and what works the best for your intended purpose. :-)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: sarjxxx on January 04, 2011, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;348418
Personally, I'd want something with a little more knock 'em down and keep 'em down power though. It's all in what you're comfortable with, what your hand fits to, and what works the best for your intended purpose. :-)
Thats great but of course the problem there then becomes the bigger it is the harder to conceal it becomes. I would love to get a Glock 19 or something right at that size/cal to carry as a concealed. Its small enough to easily hide but still big enough to control, and shoots a big enough round to stop somebody pretty quick.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Sancho on January 04, 2011, 11:04:31 PM
Consider a Kahr PM-9 if your looking for a larger caliber, concealable model
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: LittleAngel1198 on January 10, 2011, 03:24:27 PM
LMAO... my grandson got a nerf sword for Christmas (he's 18 months old), he loves it, and we taught him he can't sword fight with anyone unarmed....
However, my boys never had nerf swords, they had/have real ones, and have done a lot of sparring out in the yard..... they've never had toy guns either... I raised them to understand what a gun can do and it's purpose. Also have always taught them how to handle guns properly and they were never allowed to touch one till they knew (and practiced all the rules for them).
When I was growing up, my dad had guns in every corner of the house, ammo was kept in the gun cabinet. I was raised to never touch them, and so were my nieces and nephews. When we were old enough, we were taught how to handle them properly and have a healthy respect for them.  I was also taught how to load my own shells and bullets which I loved doing.  My dad did a lot of bluing and made a lot of ammo when I was growing up (he even ruined my mom's stove top doing lead balls for one of his guns one time...man my mom was pissed! lol)

For me, it's a natural thing to have guns and raise my kids to know how to use them and handle them. The same goes for their swords and knives. 
As for calling them weapons, yeah they are weapons... depending on how you need to use them. However, pretty much anything can be used as a weapon when its necessary.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: shame302 on January 10, 2011, 06:04:16 PM
Guns are evil, bad, dangerous, scary, horrible things.:hick:
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: hypostang on January 10, 2011, 06:07:07 PM
Quote from: shame302;349192
Guns are evil, bad, dangerous, scary, horrible things.:hick:

 
No sir............... that would be human beings :evilgrin:
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: sarjxxx on January 10, 2011, 06:23:33 PM
Quote from: hypostang;349193
No sir............... that would be human beings :evilgrin:

yep
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: mtgmike on January 11, 2011, 11:47:43 AM
I have a Ruger LCP in my pocket at all times, an XD45 in my bedside table, and a S&W 659. I traded two guns for some Tbird parts a few months ago. I hunt with a Weatherby .270 WSM. I have been looking for a SHTF gun, maybe an AR, but probably something in .308. Leaning towards a SOCOM, or DPMS LR308.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: shame302 on January 11, 2011, 05:52:55 PM
Quote from: hypostang;349193
No sir............... that would be human beings :evilgrin:
I fully agree.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: sarjxxx on January 11, 2011, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: mtgmike;349259
I have a Ruger LCP in my pocket at all times...

Oooh, yes I have been thinking about getting one of those, but I'm pretty excited about the new LC9 that comes out next month... I'd like to see how it feels though... I've never shot a pistol that small
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: 347Thunder on January 11, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
well cant seem to afford guns but I do have these guns my carry is a S&W M&P .40 with viderian green laser,(no laser when carry) and my pocket plinker NAA .22 that I keep loaded with 2 bird shot and 3 long rifle, to piss them off then stop them
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(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/DSC02211.jpg)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: 347Thunder on January 11, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
well cant seem to afford guns but I do have these guns my carry is a S&W M&P .40 with viderian green laser,(no laser when carry)I also polished the barrel and my pocket plinker NAA .22 that I keep loaded with 2 bird shot and 3 long rifle, to piss them off then stop them
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/DSC02215.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/DSC02211.jpg)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: 347Thunder on January 11, 2011, 11:20:32 PM
forgot 1
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on November 29, 2012, 10:38:44 PM
I've got a Walther PPQ in .40, feels so  good in my hand, anything else is about like holding a 1"x1" board.

I've held and handled a lot of pistols lately at the gun stores, one that keeps coming back to my hand is the Walther PPS, again in .40 S&W. It's a lot smaller, in fact, I think the S&W M&P the previous poster mentioned is very much like it. (Fwiw, S&W is the importer for Walther.)

The PPQ is a medium framed gun, unless you're wearing a large loose shirt or coat or something, ain't easy concealing that bad boy for a skinny guy. The PPS is a lot thinner, just over an inch thick, tucks away very nice. Santa, are you listening? lol

I know a lot of folks have a hard-on for a Glock, and that's fine, but they don't excite me, either by feel OR look. And I've probably touched 17 of them in the last 3 months, fired 2 different ones, both in .40.

I think I'll stick to the hand cannons from Ulm Germany, thank you.

Now, for the deer wackers. I've got a Win Model 70 Black Shadow in .30-06. I call it AT&T, because it will reach out and touch someone..errr, ANY deer.
The .303 Brit has earned it's retirement. It hangs in a place of honor now, I used it for 15 deer seasons, not counting a couple years where I didn't go.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on February 11, 2013, 10:13:38 PM
Reviving this. Just got my cert for cc.
Also have a carry toy now..it's the Walther (pr0nounced "vull tuh", btw) PPS in .40, just like it's bigger cousin the PPQ that I also have.
Walther also has a new gun out, called the PPX, from what I've read, it's slightly larger than the PPQ.
My goal is to also collect a P99 (also in .40S&W) and a P22 by year's end.

I'll try to throw up pics later on. Also, for someone that is considering doing the CC, find someone that trusts you, borrow one of their carry guns for a couple weeks..when you're at home, practice carrying IWB. It's uncomfortable for awhile, but you get used to it. Also, the PPS is roughly the same size and weight as a BLOCK 27, so it hides nicely. I've got an ETW holster for it, very nice, but I'm ordering a crossbreed supertuck ASAP.

As I said, I'll get pics in a few.
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Post by: lakenheath24 on February 12, 2013, 12:02:59 PM
Winchester model 70 in .300 win  mag
Ruger super redhawk .44mag
and a sawed of shotgun...just in case.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Masejoer on February 12, 2013, 01:50:03 PM
I haven't used a firearm but would like to start. How does one get started? I'm not sure I'd want anything more than one to CC, but I assume a secondary weapon in the house would be a good idea.

I assume take some classes to start, then go for a concealed carry permit. I know it can take some time to find an ideal weapon to carry on you and one that you like holding, since experience is needed to know truly what you like. What is the best way to find a good class? I would think that this would get the ball rolling. Help? :p
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Loaded87IROC on February 12, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
My family has just recently started getting into guns after we inherited a couple of guns that belonged to my wife's grandfather.  We have only been shooting once because due to our unfamiliarity to guns we prefer to have a family friend who knows his stuff at the range with us.  We should be shooting again this weekend.  I plan to eventually get a concealed carry permit but not until I am a more proficient shooter.

Our inherited guns are a JC Higgins .22 rifle that needs some work and a S&W Model 36.  We also just picked up a Ruger 10/22. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/IMAG0739_zpse8b77649.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/IMAG0741_zps58adc87f.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/IMAG0724.jpg)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Chooglin on February 12, 2013, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Seek;409174
I haven't used a firearm but would like to start. How does one get started? I'm not sure I'd want anything more than one to CC, but I assume a secondary weapon in the house would be a good idea.

I assume take some classes to start, then go for a concealed carry permit. I know it can take some time to find an ideal weapon to carry on you and one that you like holding, since experience is needed to know truly what you like. What is the best way to find a good class? I would think that this would get the ball rolling. Help? :p


A good way to start out is to find someone (friend or relative) that has been around guns for awhile and truly understands them.Ask them to take you out to a range and shoot.
After you feel comfortable shooting and handling a gun , purchase your own and shoot , shoot , shoot..............shoot allot.

When you are ready for your CCW , shop around for a GOOD CCW class (I would also sign up with a friend).after you complete the course , you will be certified to apply for your
CCW license (sheriffs office in Ohio).They do your background check and if you clear,you recieve your CCW licence in the mail.

I would also surf the net. looking at guns, reading about guns and watching youtube videos, anything to familiarize yourself with guns.

Hope this helps
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Masejoer on February 12, 2013, 05:07:08 PM
Quote from: Chooglin;409180
A good way to start out is to find someone (friend or relative) that has been around guns for awhile and truly understands them.Ask them to take you out to a range and shoot.
After you feel comfortable shooting and handling a gun , purchase your own and shoot , shoot , shoot..............shoot allot.

When you are ready for your CCW , shop around for a GOOD CCW class (I would also sign up with a friend).after you complete the course , you will be certified to apply for your
CCW license (sheriffs office in Ohio).They do your background check and if you clear,you recieve your CCW licence in the mail.

I would also surf the net. looking at guns, reading about guns and watching youtube videos, anything to familiarize yourself with guns.

Hope this helps

I don't know any local "firearm buffs", other than knowing OF the gangs on the east side of Portland. Around here it's basically nothing but sururbs for all of Portland and the surround areas. While there are firearms in the family (in the Seattle area), they are for "home protection" and there is a real lack of practice/expertise. Portland generally isn't the greatest of places to get much experience around firearms. You'd be amazed around here about how many people think that banning guns is the solution to gun violence. It was here in town that the Clackamas mall shooting happened in December and you can imagine how this played out in such a liberal city.

I'm not concerned of knowing about firearms in general as I've looked into them from time to time for years, but I just never took the plunge. I don't know anyone that I'd trust to get firearm advice from.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Quietleaf on February 12, 2013, 10:35:02 PM
Just a couple of .357 revolvers and an old .32 here. My dad is the real gun-owner (and an FFL).
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: mtgmike on February 18, 2013, 12:00:15 PM
Since the last time I posted, I won a ridiculous mossberg "chainsaw" shotgun. It was a raffle item at a Friends of the NRA dinner. Pretty funny deal, pistol grip, and has a funny top end grip like a chainsaw so you hold it shooting from the hip. So dumb. But it has a nasty flash hider/door breacher on the end of the barrel. I'd hate to get bashed in the head with it.

(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Mossberg-500-Chainsaw-1.jpg)

Also, I had a Century built CZ VZ58 which is similar to an AK47. It was an old surplus rifle I bought for $350. Some guy in all this madness really wanted a 7.62 rifle, so I traded him my VZ58 for his NIB Core15 AR. $350 surplus rifle traded straight up for a $1200 rifle that is sold out everywhere. Sounds like a good trade to me.

Bought a Glock 19 that a dealer was clearing out $478 shipped for a 19 is a pretty good deal.

Also bought a Ruger 1911. I just like the look of stainless gun. Think it was $600 or so.

Ive got plenty of ammo stacked up, and Im getting a big kick out of people waiting in line at sporting good stores every morning at opening time dying to score 50 or 100 rounds.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on February 18, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
Love that shotty! Does the chainsaw grip move with the pump?
I'd like to snag a newer autoloader 12GA, but right now I need to find a good tac light for my "Q40" (Walther PPQ, in .40S&W)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: MY83T on February 18, 2013, 01:39:49 PM
I have seen and been around guns my whole life.  I never had the desire to own any.  I used to shoot in the Boy Scouts every summer and enjoyed it.  I have a Military family, my dad is a retired Army Col. and is decorated Nam war vet.  He owns no guns either.  My older brother is a Army Col. serving in Afghanistan currently and is a full time DEA agent, he owns his service weapon, and a back up pistol, but other than that owns no guns either. I have a younger brother in the midwest, and also gun free.  I am a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment, and am not anti-gun at all, just that its interesting we are not a gun family given our background.  I can't afford another hobby right now anyway, and its a stretch just to be a car guy.  For all of you, keep on shooting........
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Post by: STANG8U on February 18, 2013, 01:53:32 PM
Very nice ! I just bought my 7 year old son his first 22 target rifle
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Post by: mtgmike on February 18, 2013, 03:26:12 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;409613
Love that shotty! Does the chainsaw grip move with the pump?
I'd like to snag a newer autoloader 12GA, but right now I need to find a good tac light for my "Q40" (Walther PPQ, in .40S&W)

 
Yes, thats how you supposedly rack the slide. Its a terrible idea. Ill eventually just take it off. Sounds cool, but holding it and racking the slide is awkward at best.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 18, 2013, 04:58:26 PM
I have a Marlin .22 by grandpa bought me when I was probably 12 or 13 or so.  I also have a H&R single shot .223 for coyote hunting/varmit killing and just bought my 1st semi-auto pistol a Ruger SR1911 (its awesome).

Growing up my Dad only had guns (.22 bolt action and a couple .22 revolvers) around to use on the farm to shoot varmits and coyote's.  My maternal grandpa (who bought me my Marlin) was big into bird hunting and just outdoor/hunting in general.  He was the one that taught me gun safety, gun care, etc.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on February 18, 2013, 07:40:28 PM
I found a .22WMR (.22 mag to you old timers). It needs a magazine (i found a place online, ordered 2).

It's a Westernfield M822, basically a Monkey Ward's version of the Mossberg 640K. (or is that 460K, apparently I just had a dyslexic moment)

I found 3 boxes of rounds for it today, and my dad bought another one for me. I also picked up a 100 count box of Remington/UMC .40 180gr JHP. I think I am still lacking in the projectiles department though.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on March 16, 2013, 02:43:05 AM
This is about the only time this one will be seen by the public:
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Has 2 7 round mags, and a 6 round mag is inserted for CC. I'm now legal to carry concealed, and to that end I have a Tommy Theis IWB hybrid holster...that thing is so comfortable I can forget it's there. I also have an Uncle Mike's grip on the firearm, with a tiny edge cut off avoid interference with the mag. I also have a DPM recoil reduction guide rod and spring system in place...anyone that's shot a subcompact in the larger calibers will know what a buck the .40S&W has...with the DPM stuff in place...there's virtually no flip, just a straight back push. It's very easy to hold on target...and that trigger....there is nothing like it.
I've also modded the sights to get by until I can get some Mepro or Trijicon Tritium sights located and bought.

I've also got a very similar holster for the PPQ, and I can wear it concealed as well, although I need a vest or a loose sweater, as it's nearly a full size pistol.

The PPQ is such a hit with my wife too....I'm afraid I'll end up having to buy her one of the brand new models that's actually sold here by Walther instead of the older style that were imported by S&W. The only gripe I have about the PPQ M2 is the button mag release (sell outs!) and the incompatibility of those mags with the original "Classic" style such as the one I own.

The only other thing I don't like is that these aren't available in .45ACP or .357SIG. To me, that's a ed shame. Anyway...show and tell is over for now. :D

My view of things:
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Post by: jcassity on March 17, 2013, 10:29:43 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;411281
.show and tell is over for now. :D

I think you said a mouthfull,,

nice gear you have there~!
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on March 17, 2013, 01:05:47 PM
Thanks! I'm pretty proud of it....it's reliable to a T...the only failure I have had was when I (deliberately) limp-wristed it...of course it then gave me a FTE...I mostly use the Winchester white box 180grain hollow point stuff, but have ran several boxes of the Winchester fmj just for target and practice shooting. I was carrying some Glaser Pow'rBall self defense ammo...but during some backyard tests, I found that over half didn't expand.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Nytedragon on September 27, 2013, 08:01:49 PM
Here is my modest collection.  12gauge 870 express synthetic 18" barrel scattergun technologies +1 extension(bring it to 7+1), remington 700 adl .270WIN, Taurus pt-145(bottom left, actually sold it about a month ago), and Taurus 24/7 G2 9mm SS(planning on selling and buying a glock).

I'm looking to buy a Colt le6920 or 6940, ak variant, a cetme, fal, or m14 variant, or all of the above.

Selling the 24/7 G2 because right out of the box it had issues, took to trips to miami to finally fix the light primer strikes.  Then two weeks ago I bought a magazine to add to the two factory ones so I could actually use my double mag holder while open/concealed carrying... thing got stuck.  Wouldn't eject, customer service said back order was 6-8 weeks and that exchanging to retailer would be faster.  Exchanged it, same thing, returned magazine.

Also I have found the compact guns are too  small to shoot worth a .  Right holster can conceal a full size easily enough, so screw it.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: teal9550 on September 28, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
I carry a kel-tec pf9 every place I, go its small enough to fit in my pocket so I'm never tempted to leave it at home.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: pegasus on October 01, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
rossi 357mag, kimber 45 acp, 12 gauge remington 870, 20 gauge mossburge 500, thats just what we keep here in the office
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 13, 2017, 06:28:59 PM
I'm still carrying my Walthers, though I've went from .40 t0 9mm, although in the same "package". That's a PPS for cc duty, the PPQ with an extended mag and light for nightstand work, and of course a 12GA Mossy with slugs for people who don't understand "Get the shag out" in any other language...

I've got a few more, but the ones above are the ones I grab first when bad shiznit starts. As I type this, my PPQ Classic is by my side. I'd like to branch out to some SIG stuff, I've been wanting to get a '226 ever since I shot one a few months ago...excellent firearm. The HK VP9 is excellent too, and I'll likely get the SK (compact) of it, unless Walther announces a PPQ compact this fall at SHOT show.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Sancho on September 13, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
I've been carrying a P225 for about a decade now, it's bigger than your Walthers by quite a bit though. During my hiatus from working on cars I got interested in building firearms, have done a few rewelds now with another on the bench waiting for some lathe time to neuter the bolts naughty bits before building it up.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 13, 2017, 10:49:09 PM
I love my Walthers.  I have a PPS M2 LE for carry, and a PPQ M1 for home and range (that trigger still makes me giggle and puts double taps practically through the same hole). 
VP9 isn't for me though, too snappy, and though I prefer a paddle mag release, HK's are just too short.  When I bought my PPQ, I chose the M1 over the M2 specifically for that reason.
I've also started making my own Kydex holsters and Mag carriers.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 13, 2017, 10:53:52 PM
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Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 14, 2017, 12:40:26 AM
Goded right, Foe, on the PPQ Classic (or M1 as the new(er) crowd calls 'em!)

Graham (88turbo on here) was up a year or so ago, he fired my Q, PPS, and my .30-06, they're all great. He's got a PK380 too, and it's ok though I don't really care for .380.

I had a PPQ Navy (M2) but I sold it because A, it had the button, and B, two otherwise identical 9mm pistols was a little redundant, especially since the mags are very similar but non-interchangeable.

I've not yet has a chance to shoot the PPS M2, but I'd probably love it, aside from the button.

I WISH WISH WISH Walther would make the Q45 available with the Classic mag release, too. s.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 14, 2017, 06:32:33 AM
To me, a pistol has to have a slide release, that's what keeps me away from the PK380.  I've also heard a lot about feed failures, and being extremely sensitive to limp wristing.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 14, 2017, 07:29:57 PM
I rarely ever use the slide release, despite the fact the PPQ has two big ole honkin' levers on it LOL.

The PPS is such a c to thumb the release, and I was always taught to use the slingshot method anyway. The rear sight (Mepro) on my PPQ is a big blocky , one can rack it by catching the sight on a belt, and having at it. I've done it, but nothing more than a trial. Odds are, if I'm ever in a SHTF ordeal I'll be running on instinct and will revert to what I've always done...slingshotting the slide with a new mag. Though the PPQ will auto forward if you slap the mag in with any kind of force. All three of my PPQ' would, in fact, even the Navy, and it was brand spankin' new when I got it.


What's your take on the PPX/Creed? I've handled and shot a few, the trigger is nice, as good as a PPQ or even a P99 in SA mode......the only thing I am concerned with is the three piece barrel....
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 14, 2017, 09:59:42 PM
I bought a Creed in March, put 1200 through it. And thought it was the best pistol ever. Then a guy at the range let me shoot his PPQ. It was all over after that. I bought the PPQ in July and sold the Creed in August. Probably the best polymer hammer pistol ever, but PPQ is superior in every way. Also, it's (the PPQ) slightly smaller in every dimension, which was weird.  What I didn't like was the long reset and the rounded trigger guard. Never had a single malfunction, and never had an issue with the barrel.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 15, 2017, 07:36:52 PM
Long time since I've seen this thread. My current gun/pointy thing collection includes the same Remington Model 700 .30-06, a Lakefield Mark II .22 bolt action, a Remington semi automatic 12 gauge, a Savage .308 (bought for my husband, he's starting to get into hunting), and my new this year toy, a Centerpoint 370 crossbow. Going moose hunting next week (Sept 25-30), then deer hunting with the crossbow from October 2-26, then deer hunting with the .30-06 from the 27th through November. This will be my first moose hunt (we have a moose tag lottery, our hunting group won it this year), and will also be my first year hunting with the crossbow. I am actually looking more forward to using the crossbow than the rifle! Just using it at the cottage, sighting it in, I've been having a blast. I even pulled a Robin Hood with it, and put an arrow inside another arrow.

There have been some changes since the first pic was taken: The Remington 700 has a new synthetic stock and the .22 has a scope. Second pic is the Savage, the day we brought it home. Third pic is the crossbow.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 15, 2017, 11:30:50 PM
That's a hell of a crossbow LOL. I've been wanting to get one, just have never pulled the trigger, pun intended.

Foe, I've also got a P99c, but I'm not too in love with a SA/DA trigger. After carrying my PPS since 2013, what I want in a doublestack carry is probably a P99cQA. That's "quick action" and it's more like a glock style trigger than the P99AS OR the PPQ. I just don't want a soft, short, easy trigger on my carry, though of course I'm more accurate with such. It's hard to find a P99cQA in 9mm, I've got one .40 but I ought to sell it. I should add I've sold the Navy some time back and have kinda kicked myself in the ass since. Don't sell a Walther ;)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 16, 2017, 12:05:43 AM
I'm a guy who likes to build shiznit, so I think my next gun is going to start out as an 80% AR lower receiver and grow out from there.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 16, 2017, 12:44:26 PM
I've been kicking around the idea of an AR10, or possibly something that's multi-caliber, with the eventual goal of .300 Blackout, suppressed. I've watched some Hickok45 shiznit on youtube about the .300BLK, and it looks like more fun than a hot tub full of willing women. I had a Bushmaster in .223/5.56, and while it was fun, I'm a guy who likes to feel a little recoil, see shiznit come apart when a .30 bullet nails it, that sort of thing.

And as much as detest glock, I've been considering a 10mm long slide. I could always throw a jarvis barrel in it and run .40, too. And .357SIG, and...and....


I've gotta get a safety ball for my Mossy 500, and will get a ghost ring/fiber front sight for a little better sighting. (was mentioning this to another forum, some jackwagon said that shotguns don't need aimed...LOL. n00bs)
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Sancho on September 16, 2017, 06:03:51 PM
80% you say? They're a heck of a lot of fun to build up, just gotta keep 922r in mind as you do it.

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Post by: 88turbo on October 04, 2017, 08:57:58 PM
Guns? In this day and age...  I don't believe in them!!!:hick:
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on October 06, 2017, 01:20:25 AM
Dude! We've sipped whiskey together. You ain't no snowflake, lol.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on October 06, 2017, 06:13:42 AM
I took it as sarcasm.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on October 06, 2017, 07:26:28 PM
It was, I was kiddin' around with G, LOL.

We've actually put lead downrange together. Don't think his wife liked my .30-06 with the handmade deer loads though. Then again, a rifle on the slimmer side sending 150gr .30 bullets out the barrel at 3,000fps isn't really mild to some. That said, a .300 WinMag is on the edge of ", this stings a bit". My 'ought six" is enough to kill whatever I need dead. Had it since 2012, always been a one shot kill affair, with regards to deer. Then again, my .303 British was, too.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: tommym on October 06, 2017, 10:34:39 PM
Only have one- 9mm Springfield XD-M, 5 1/4in, a bunch of 19 shot mags loaded with Spear Gold Dot 124+P, Talon grips, IMI paddle holster
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Bird of Prey on October 07, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
I have .22 caliber Remington Nylon 66 I received on my 11th birthday, a Russian (not Chinese copy) SKS and a Marlin 30-30 lever action.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on October 07, 2017, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: tommym;463117
Only have one- 9mm Springfield XD-M, 5 1/4in, a bunch of 19 shot mags loaded with Spear Gold Dot 124+P, Talon grips, IMI paddle holster
I've spent a little time with a couple of XD's, and the grip safety is the most exquisitely uncomfortable thing I've ever had in my hand.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: jcassity on October 20, 2017, 11:32:42 AM
just for the heck of it,, thought id throw this out there.

Option A
looking for 41 caliber rim fire ammo

option B
looking for someone to mod my gun to take an equal type center fire ammo
process to option B...........
drill center fire pin to allow a nail or smooth shank rod such as a drill bit to be the new firing pin.
either sleeve the breach or rework the barrel to accept this new ammo or supply ammo that works which is knecked to match original design

gun type is Waffenfabric M81
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Sancho on October 22, 2017, 11:04:25 PM
41 is an odd one, your most likely going to have to rebarrel it into something more common. Sorta neat it’s a needle fire though, that is some old technology. You’ll have to figure out what the bolt face will accept without heavily modifying it.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on October 23, 2017, 01:20:09 AM
I wouldn't bother modifying the .41, the thing is so old it's meant to be used with blackpowder, not the smokeless stuff modern guns and ammo use. For what it would cost a good 'smith to work it over, you could find good used Glock. Then again, if want to shoot it, be ed careful with loads, though I'd say you're going to a complete rechambering + different/new barrel.

Nails don't make good firing pins...too soft.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Tbird232ci on October 23, 2017, 02:57:09 AM
Being as I live in Maryland, this really isn't a topic I partake in.

Gun laws in Maryland suck testes.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on October 23, 2017, 06:43:30 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;463433
Being as I live in Maryland, this really isn't a topic I partake in.

Gun laws in Maryland suck testes.
You could move.  I would.
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Post by: jcassity on October 23, 2017, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;463433
Being as I live in Maryland, this really isn't a topic I partake in.

Gun laws in Maryland suck testes.


so i gotta ask,,,

you cant just own a gun?
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 23, 2017, 04:37:21 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;463433
Being as I live in Maryland, this really isn't a topic I partake in.

Gun laws in Maryland suck testes.
Dude, I live in Canada. I know all about restrictive gun laws
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Tbird232ci on October 24, 2017, 03:40:27 PM
In Maryland, they essentially banned "Assault weapons" or firearms with "evil features". They released a list of guns, by name, which are banned in Maryland. The people who imposed this ban only did it to have taken some sort of action to justify their jobs. They listed specific firearms such as the AK47. Then, after the list, they listed "evil features" that your firearm can only possess a certain amount of. I can't remember all of the features, but they were things like a folding stock, bayonet lug, threaded muzzle, pistol grips and things to that effect. I believe you were only able to have two of these features before it was banned. They also added a copycat section to eliminate firearms from companies who take a design, slightly alter it, and then rename it.

Getting a handgun qualification license here is also a pain. You have to attend an 8 hour class, get finger printed, background checked and then you can only purchase a certain amount of firearms in a certain amount of time. You also have to retake the classes after a certain amount of time. Getting a concealed carry permit is even worse. You have to prove that you need it, which Maryland makes very difficult.

While I have nothing to hide, but I really don't like the idea of having to put my name on a list like Maryland wants. I feel like because I would have regulated firearms, I would be automatically considered hostile in the eyes of the law.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Tbird232ci on October 24, 2017, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;463440
Dude, I live in Canada. I know all about restrictive gun laws

You guys do have it rough. Are you guys limited to 5 round magazines up there?
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Post by: Sancho on October 24, 2017, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;463440
Dude, I live in Canada. I know all about restrictive gun laws

But you can buy SVT40’s for a pittance.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on October 26, 2017, 12:33:50 PM
As for hard-ass and asinine gun laws, MD is second only to Commieshaginallofya..errrrr California. Hawaii is pretty bad, as is Jersey.


I had to take an 8 hour class, get printed, and pay a fee, but my sheriff's office is more like a "will issue", rather than a "shall issue" place. It's not an idle boast that three out of five people here have a CC certification LOL. That number will likely go down as we now have "constitutional carry", though.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 27, 2017, 05:14:10 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;463453
You guys do have it rough. Are you guys limited to 5 round magazines up there?

I think that only applies to semi automatic rifles. Doesn't affect me - aside from the shotgun everything I have is bolt action, and the shotgun is limited to three shells. This is more of a wildlife conservation law than gun control - shotguns have been restricted to three shells for as long as I can remember, to prevent people from taking down whole flocks of geese, ducks, etc.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: BLKBRD88 on October 27, 2017, 08:36:15 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;463495
I think that only applies to semi automatic rifles. Doesn't affect me - aside from the shotgun everything I have is bolt action, and the shotgun is limited to three shells. This is more of a wildlife conservation law than gun control - shotguns have been restricted to three shells for as long as I can remember, to prevent people from taking down whole flocks of geese, ducks, etc.

I don't know about Canada, but our 2nd amendment wasn't meant to restrict us to certain hunting weapons, or sporting/target weapons. It was absolutely put there so the people of the nation could protect themselves, with whatever they chose to own, against a corrupt government.............I think our founding fathers had a premonition of what was coming after they were gone!!!
Any government restrictions (of any kind) are only a step in the direction of the day they are able to confiscate all arms.
Ron
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: jcassity on October 29, 2017, 09:57:52 AM
if prior military, no training class req'd

CC permt is a background check then you get your CC for 5 years.

federal permitting is more detailed but no hard.

wv is easy going on the peoples rights in the USA


by law what is odd is that  you are "forced by wording" to use only a gun to protect yourself.. there are words in the law that make it difficult and nearly impossible to carry anything but a gun!
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 26, 2018, 05:40:23 AM
New project, completely off the books.  Looking to chamber 300BLK, anybody have experience with the cartridge?
That's a Polymer80 G150 Phoenix lower, if anyone was curious.

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Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 26, 2018, 04:23:19 PM
Lost in a boat accident yet?
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 26, 2018, 04:31:07 PM
I don't follow.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 26, 2018, 04:32:55 PM
Ahh, the .300BLK. You gonna run a can?

I've shot one a bit....easy to shoot, quiet, hits like a hammer. They'll drop a deer (whitetail) with ease.

There's a gun out there that I'd give me left ball for. It's a .300 Win Mag, but in an AR style rifle. There's a guy on the yooooootoooob shooting it one handed. Recoil is pretty tame owing to the spring. Anyone who's shot the .300 WinMag in a bolt gun knows it ain't all that mild.

Anyone wanna donate about 3500 bucks so I can live my dream?:hick:

(we can take the ball issue to PM if you like) :punchballs:;)


As for MY guns, still using the Walther PPQ and of course my PPS is my EDC.
I've also got a PPQ Navy, but it's the M2 version and since I prefer the paddle mag release, it stays in the safe.

Did snag up a Mossy 500 sometime back. 2-3/4" slugs call it home. Woe to anyone who forces me to use it on them. They expand to silver dollar size in soft stuff.


A guy I work with is doing some rifle shoots, wants me to get into the pistol side of it, there's speed, accuracy, and popup target shooting. Looks like I need to practice a little...first event is October 27, I think I'll give 'er a go.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 26, 2018, 04:58:15 PM
I'm not going to run it suppressed, tax stamp is too much.  I want to run .300 Blackout, because I want to be able to hunt worthwhile game with it.  .223 Rem/5.56 NATO is NOT a hunting round, no matter what anybody says.  It's really only good at taking one kind of game, and I'm not that interested in prison.  I've also been tempted by the new 300 HAMR from Wilson Combat, but their barrel is 1-15 twist and they want almost $300 for it.  For that kind of money, I might just deal with the 300FPshiznit to MV running 300BLK.  Or maybe get into handloading, I don't know.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: grutinator on September 26, 2018, 09:42:34 PM
Quote from: TheFoeYouKnow;467273
I don't follow.

A huge reason people have 80's is that no one knows they have it. Posting a picture ruins that. If you were to lose it, people would go back to thinking you no longer had it.

it's a joke.


I'd be a little carefully with 300 BO on a poly lower. Subs I'm sure are fine, but hot and heavy hunting loads may beat that thing up. I'd definitely get an adjustable gas block and tune it down as low as you can. Those buffer tube towers are a weak point. And since you just 'lost' your poly80, you could always finish an aluminum one too and never have to worry.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 26, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
To me, the point of a polymer80 is that it's half the price of a serialized Poly lower I'd have to pay an FFL to get.  And I like to build stuff. 
I'm not concerned about breaking it, the G150 Phoenix is the 2nd gen P80 unit, and it's the strongest poly lower available (serialized or not). 
I've already passed every background check to buy pistols and get a concealed pistol license, I don't have to worry about anybody knowing I manufactured a firearm for my own use. (Except maybe my wife, which is why this project is off the books) All the ATF cares about is that it's not for sale.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 27, 2018, 02:30:27 AM
If you don't want to or will never run suppressed, I'd forgo the expense of the .300 BLK stuff, and simply build a .308 gun. That will take down nearly every 4 legged game animal save for moose and elk in the US, for the most part.

I STILL laugh in derision when I see people putting muzzle brakes on .223/5.56 guns....what are you...a f*ckin' pansy?? LOL.

(I hate the shagers anyway, and so does everyone who stands next to the  shooting the ed thing at a range, outside, etc)

I dunno, recoil, to me, is a wonderful thing. It's subjective, however. A semi auto AR-type in a mouse caliber like I mentioned above isn't worthy of a brake. My ten year old shoots my hand-me-down .30-30 and says it's not a thing to bother about. He's almost as big as me, though.

That time when I shot a .338 Mag a few times...yeh, that was a tad bit uncomfortable. I also hunted for a couple of years with a .45-70 with some handloads my dad made. That was some robust shooting, but not much more kick than a magnum turkey load in a 12ga..
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 27, 2018, 04:43:06 AM
Quote from: grutinator;467276
A huge reason people have 80's is that no one knows they have it. Posting a picture ruins that. If you were to lose it, people would go back to thinking you no longer had it.

it's a joke.


Pretty much this. Especially depending on the state that you're in.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 27, 2018, 05:03:22 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;467279
If you don't want to or will never run suppressed, I'd forgo the expense of the .300 BLK stuff, and simply build a .308 gun. That will take down nearly every 4 legged game animal save for moose and elk in the US, for the most part.

I STILL laugh in derision when I see people putting muzzle brakes on .223/5.56 guns....what are you...a f*ckin' pansy?? LOL.

(I hate the shagers anyway, and so does everyone who stands next to the  shooting the ed thing at a range, outside, etc)

I dunno, recoil, to me, is a wonderful thing. It's subjective, however. A semi auto AR-type in a mouse caliber like I mentioned above isn't worthy of a brake. My ten year old shoots my hand-me-down .30-30 and says it's not a thing to bother about. He's almost as big as me, though.

That time when I shot a .338 Mag a few times...yeh, that was a tad bit uncomfortable. I also hunted for a couple of years with a .45-70 with some handloads my dad made. That was some robust shooting, but not much more kick than a magnum turkey load in a 12ga..
308 guns like AR-10 have a different magwell, so that's out.  I had considered a CRD, and maybe that's what you meant by 'can'. I agree that nobody wants to be in the stall next to the guy with the AR at the range.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 27, 2018, 05:26:54 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;467280
Pretty much this. Especially depending on the state that you're in.
I get it now.  You 2 guys are from MaryLand, where you pretty much HAVE no gun rights and can't own an AR pattern firearm (IIRC).  For both of YOU, a poly80 WOULD be about keeping it on the low.  Sorry about that.  Here in Michigan, things are different, FFS we have legal open carry, no permit required, Shall Issue CPL, Shall issue pistol purchase permits, and can own pretty much anything we want that isn't full auto or explosive.  My boss lets me keep a loaded PPQ in my toolbox and he keeps an AR-15 above his office door.  Aside from the snow, I really like it here.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 28, 2018, 12:05:15 PM
PPQ FTMFW, BTW.

, who'd a thunk I could make a "sentence" with mere words..lol.

My job is pretty restrictive per carry, but I do get to keep my edc in my vehicle.

Foe, I see where you're coming from...you've already got your lower, so... ;)
If I was starting from scratch and wasn't planning on suppressed, I'd go .308 or even something bigger. But .300blk is cool, too. Definitely take deer with it. Make a good home defense tool, too. Mount a light, good to go.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 28, 2018, 04:34:18 PM
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I get it now.  You 2 guys are from MaryLand, where you pretty much HAVE no gun rights and can't own an AR pattern firearm (IIRC).  For both of YOU, a poly80 WOULD be about keeping it on the low.  Sorry about that.  Here in Michigan, things are different, FFS we have legal open carry, no permit required, Shall Issue CPL, Shall issue pistol purchase permits, and can own pretty much anything we want that isn't full auto or explosive.  My boss lets me keep a loaded PPQ in my toolbox and he keeps an AR-15 above his office door.  Aside from the snow, I really like it here.


We can own an AR15, but there are a lot of hoops. There are many more firearms that are just as, if not more effective than an AR15 that can be had much more easily. I can't remember off of the top of my head, but you can legally build an 80, but you can not sell it. Some ranges will not let you bring it in if it doesn't have a serial number.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 28, 2018, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;467299
We can own an AR15, but there are a lot of hoops. There are many more firearms that are just as, if not more effective than an AR15 that can be had much more easily. I can't remember off of the top of my head, but you can legally build an 80, but you can not sell it. Some ranges will not let you bring it in if it doesn't have a serial number.
Not here, you only can't bring it in (any firearm) if it is uncased or unholstered.  I've never been to a range that checked your serial number.  Here, if they knew you had an 80 frame or receiver, they'd be curious and ask questions like "was it hard to build" or "what tools did you have to have"  "how much did it cost/save" and so on.  But no, I can not sell it.  There are some precedents for sale of a self manufactured firearm, and the dividing line between "I made it to sell it", and "I made it, played with it and got bored so I sold it" is between 24 and 30 months, depending on who you end up dealing with.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: grutinator on September 29, 2018, 03:28:30 PM
Yes, as far as AR-15's in MD go, you do have some choices. New ar's must be heavy barrels (talk about a dumb law), but only if they are 223/556. So a pencil 300BO, 6.5 grendel, 6.8 SPC, 9mm etc, are all OK. Also, you can have AR pistols, so a 16" pencil barrel 223 rifle is illegal, but a 14.5" 223" pencil barrel pistol, that's OK. Also, all preban lowers are grandfathered in, so a lower you own before 2013 can be a whatever barrel profile you want in any caliber.

You can sell a completed 80%, but as you said, you can't build with intent to sell. And as they are now regulated, it must be done through an FFL(I'm pretty sure that's only MD to MD tho). Also to anyone in MD reading this, there's talks that they want all 80's registered and serialized like what California just passed:punchballs:

I've never seen a range turn anyone away for an unserialized lower... but I'm sure there are a few ranges that could.

We use to complain that we were limited to 20rd mags, that was our only real restraint, and even then you could larger ones, you just couldn't buy 30s in state. Then, it seemed like overnight, we restricted to 10's, need a Handgun Qualification licence to buy an handgun(which I downright refuse to do), no more 'regular' AR15s, no more 'regular' AK's, pretty sure mini14s and SKS's are also banned, they just signed a bumpstock and echo trigger ban. Just saying, keep fighting the good fight, don't rest on your laurels, and don't think 'that will never happen to me'. One incident, one wrong asshole voted in, one signature on a piece of paper, things can change quickly.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on September 29, 2018, 03:39:53 PM
Shame302 probably has nothing good to say about restrictive gun laws. Does anyone still talk to him?

, where did everyone go...? :(


I wish you guys had Missouri's gun laws. If you're not a felon or loony, you can pretty much buy anything that's not federally regulated. I'd have a shiznitfit if the powers-that-be did passed some bullshiznit laws like some of you folks have. It ain't right...I feel for yas.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on October 03, 2018, 03:24:23 PM
Borrowed some stuff to have a test session.

Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Tbird232ci on October 04, 2018, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;467319
Shame302 probably has nothing good to say about restrictive gun laws. Does anyone still talk to him?

I really wish I could remember his real name. I used to talk to him frequently on AIM, but those days are long gone.

Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302
I wish you guys had Missouri's gun laws. If you're not a felon or loony, you can pretty much buy anything that's not federally regulated. I'd have a shiznitfit if the powers-that-be did passed some bullshiznit laws like some of you folks have. It ain't right...I feel for yas.

There are still a lot of loop holes and a lot of random things you can get away with, but you really have to know what you're doing. If you do get in trouble, you also have to know how to explain yourself very well.

I just throw rocks at home intruders. More legal that way.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on October 05, 2018, 05:04:40 AM
That shiznit sucks. Pretty bad when you'd be in more trouble for defending yourself, property, kids, etc than the shiznitbag breaking in to harm or damage them...

Dude, I don't get up at 2AM to take a piss without my light and a pistol..not paranoid, just 4 decades of seeing and hearing how low humanity can go made me realize that a lifetime of wondering if I should've used force is a hell of a lot less worry than actually firing on a shiznitbag if/when the situation needed it.

Last summer ('17) had some guy from down at town pull up in the driveway right after I'd gotten home for lunch, yelling at the driver of the SUV to come out and "be an adult"...

I grabbed my PPQ, stuck it in my pocket, all but the grip was hidden and there wasn't a round chambered, since it was laying on my nightstand. I went out, kept the front end of the Mountaineer between him and myself and asked what the shag he was doing in my driveway yelling like an asshole..

He said some stuff about blowing through a stop sign by his house....ironically, the way I come home through has NO stop signs going TO home, but one going FROM home, where I turn off on the highway, and there's no houses within a 1/2 mile of that stop..

I set him straight, tell him he's clearly got the wrong guy, and I don't blast through stop signs anyway, and he walks up on me, coming around the front of my Mounty.

I'm not so sure the guy isn't in his right mind, but I back up toward the house, my hand inches above the grip of my PPQ, he evidently sees it, stops, and says something like "have a good evening" or something, and hightails it to his vehicle and leaves.

I got the shakes a bit once he was backing down the driveway.... it, but I'm glad he left before it go worse.

I wouldn't ever go on someone's property and call them outside like that guy did to me. That's what LEOs are for LOL.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on October 05, 2018, 08:08:45 AM
Ever get started in a hobby and find yourself sitting on more stuff than you'll ever need JUST because it was fun to make?


Tip of the iceberg. 
I've got 4 OWB PPQ holsters, 2 molded leather, 2 kydex all RH, and 2 hybrid IWBs RH 4 o'clock and RH SoB.  And that's just for the PPQ.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on October 05, 2018, 12:49:03 PM
I wish I had as many guns as I do holsters.. :D
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on October 05, 2018, 01:27:50 PM
I need more guns to make holsters for.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on October 06, 2018, 02:20:34 AM
If I may make suggestions? :D

PPS "Classic" (M1)

HK VP9sk

Canik TP9

P99c

I've got a P99c....excellent gun, but then, it IS a Walther, made back before they had to put the shaging pushbutton mag release on everyshaginthing, much less make 'em all look like a PPQ in terms of overall style....
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on October 21, 2018, 08:55:57 PM
HK just released a push-button VP9.  Might be the first push-button HK ever.  Might as well, though, their paddles are uselessly short.

BTW, range report on my polymer lower:  200 rounds of 5.56 NATO and no damage to the lower receiver, no cracks, no stress marks, nothing.  Probably want to think about an H2 or H3 buffer though.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on October 22, 2018, 01:10:37 AM
Yeah, I read about the new VP9b a few days ago on the Walther forum....seems to be the American thing, Walther is getting away from the paddle release too. I emailed their CS in fort smith, asking about a paddle release PPQc, and was told "no, not in the plans". shag 'em.

Dumb down the best shaging handgun with those stupid ass buttons to the glock ws will buy 'em...bullshiznit.

At least I own two PPQ Classics and as well, a pair of PPS'...all have the paddle release. Next up...some P99 and P99c. I'd love a VP9sk, too, but only with paddles. You CAN get longer paddles from HK, have to trim the trigger guard though. (or at least, I think so. Magnum Research also has a line of pistols, the MR9 and MR40, with frames made by Walther (think P99, and that's what it basically is), with cromoly barrels and stainless slides, but they have short paddles. A guy on Walther forums has put PPQ paddles on some of his MR guns. Turns out quite nice, actually.

I've shot all kinds of handguns, several have passed through my hands. My PPQ and PPS will be here for as long as I need them.

The only 1911 I want is a Para, the one that's doublestack and holds 14+1. I plan to convert it to .400 Corbon. That's a 10mm bullet in a necked down .45 case. 10mm energies with less recoil, if you will.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: grutinator on October 22, 2018, 01:00:14 PM
Quote from: TheFoeYouKnow;467718
HK just released a push-button VP9.  Might be the first push-button HK ever.  Might as well, though, their paddles are uselessly short.

BTW, range report on my polymer lower:  200 rounds of 5.56 NATO and no damage to the lower receiver, no cracks, no stress marks, nothing.  Probably want to think about an H2 or H3 buffer though.

yeah, 556 wouldn't really scare me too much, the 300 you were talking about is why I was concerned. Since the 300 almost always uses pistol length gas system, it tends to be more violent on the buffer tower than rifle or mid length 556. Best of luck tho, it is a great feeling that you actually hand built something and made it yours, much like most of us have done with our cars.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on October 22, 2018, 01:22:38 PM
I'd heard that about the pistol length gas system, but carbine length is used fairly commonly as well in 16 barrels (only) . 300BLK uses a lot of pistol length systems because subsonic rounds don't cycle reliably in a short barrel otherwise. According to AAC who created the round, either subs or supers should cycle well in a 16" with a carbine length system. I'm going to go with that and hope for the best.  And the gunsmith at the gunstore/range I like to go to told me he had built a 300BLK on an FFL poly lower, that ran good on a 16" carbine system along with an H3 buffer weight.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on November 26, 2018, 06:20:50 PM
All done til I can afford optics. 60 rounds of 147gr FMJ down-range after work tonight with my original H buffer, and I didn't manage to break it. I was surprised that the recoil seemed about the same as the 55gr .223 I was shooting with that borrowed 5.56 upper. I might leave that buffer alone for now, since it seems just right, and I think it would have been over-gassed with a pistol length gas system.

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Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on November 26, 2018, 08:46:10 PM
Oooohhh...dat's purty!
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: grutinator on November 26, 2018, 11:00:49 PM
Wow that looks good! :D
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on November 27, 2018, 04:04:55 AM
Thanks, guys.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: jcassity on November 27, 2018, 06:39:30 PM
last month Calif passed some very restrictive laws that in my opinion if not for a states sovereignty,, it violates the 2nd amendment.

dont be caught with a gun and be under 25, or been to a doctor how commented in your file that you were given meds that may restrict your senses ect.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on November 27, 2018, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: jcassity;468140
last month Calif passed some very restrictive laws that in my opinion if not for a states sovereignty,, it violates the 2nd amendment.

dont be caught with a gun and be under 25, or been to a doctor how commented in your file that you were given meds that may restrict your senses ect.

I don't know; Malibu seems to have warmed up to the 2nd lately (as well as generally warming up).
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Troxell on December 06, 2018, 07:17:56 AM
How so, TheFoe? Did they pass a bill that's not on the SJW side regarding guns or something?
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on December 06, 2018, 07:56:28 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqIEcalHFUD/
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on February 02, 2019, 03:39:04 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;468133
Oooohhh...dat's purty!

Those FDE mags don't run 300BLK for shiznit, though.  After a couple hundred more rounds of 147gr, I've zeroed in on PMAGs as the best for me, though now I see they make a 300BLK specific PMAG.  I need to make more money.  Lots more.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on February 05, 2019, 04:53:08 PM
Foe, have you seen/heard about the PPQ SF?

(cliff's notes: full steel frame PPQ, uses the M2 mags, and still has that sweet, sweet trigger)

There's two versions of it, the "Standard" that comes with 3 15 round mags and no magwell funnel, and the "Pro" which comes with three 15+2 mags and the magwell funnel. Both versions have the plates to mount optics, same as the Q5 Match (polymer frame)..

about 1500 bucks for the Pro, standard is a couple bills less. One of the guys in my FB PPQ group nabbed a standard for 1200 bucks OTD at his LGS. Lucky son of a bitch, lol.

Wife says I can get one, if I sell my Mustang and break even on the cost of the gun... :-/
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on February 05, 2019, 06:48:06 PM
I'm familiar with it.  I had some time with a polymer Q5, so the SF seems like it would be even more awesome.  I don't want one, but awesome.  Sounds like the wife is putting you to some hard choices, could be worth it, though.  If you get one, you should post about it.
Title: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on February 05, 2019, 07:49:12 PM
Yeh, thing is, it's a race gun...I don't compete, and shag knows I wouldn't carry it, due to the cost and weight...but it would be fun to plink with it. There's a pic of one hard chromed that was a one-off for SHOT Show...gorgeous, and that's saying something...as I generally detest flashy guns. But flashy guns attract eyes and interested eyes are often connected to the hand that writes a check for new guns... lol
Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on April 21, 2020, 12:23:10 AM
Been a hairy couple months.  More so, I would say, if one were in the gun business, so who has guns NOW?  Anybody new?
Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on August 08, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
Holy shiznit..just popped on the board and this is one of the threads that popped up with new posts..

Yeah, I've added to the arsenal a little. I'll throw some pics on later, getting ready to be taken out for dinner by the girlfriend.

Speakin' of THAT....not sure if this is the thread for it, so I'll mention it later.. :toothless:


Currently have a PPQ Classic or (M1) in both 9mm and .40, and those are both 2011 builds which was the first year of production.
Also have a PPQ M2 Navy (that's bounced in and out of my hands a couple of times), and a PPQsc. Bonus...I can use the15 round Navy mags in the Qsc.

Also have a Walther CCP
In addition to a P99cAS in 9mm, and a P99cQA in .40

No new long guns yet. The Mossberg shotty still holds down the homefront with slugs inside, and a light on the outside.

Knives everywhere. Carry knife is a Kershaw. It'll do it all. And has done most of it, already.

Stay safe! :smile:
Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: vinnietbird on August 09, 2020, 09:56:35 AM
I only have a S7W 9mm pistol. It's all I need. Family and home protection.
Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on August 09, 2020, 11:04:02 PM
Nothing is enough for home protection. And ed sure not just one pistol.

In today's shaged up, dog eat dog mentality, alarm system, a dog or two, and a pistol with a light and a long gun close by but secured from children is the minimum.

Even then, if one isn't familiar with firearms presentation in the dark with a shot of adrenaline dulling down even the most basic of motor skills, you're already on the defensive and having to react rather than act.
Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on September 01, 2020, 10:10:00 PM
Finished up a pretty cool PCC build for the wife. 10" 9mm AR pistol.  Took a bit to work out some feeding issues, but now it's reliable.  Even eats my reloads, though I can't find small pistol primers right now. I've started developing a PCC specific load using small rifle primers in the mean time.
Also added a 10.5" 300BLK build. 
Next we're getting a P320 for the wife; I prefer Walther, but the Sig is the only pistol she can hit the wide face of a standard dairy barn with.  I joke, but she can shoot the wings off a mosquito with that AR.


Edit: Sig didn't happen. Unemployment happened instead.

Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on November 16, 2020, 08:02:11 PM
Everybody out there keeping their powder dry?
Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: Beau on November 17, 2020, 08:49:53 AM
Yup. Can't find ANY goded 9mm or 45 anywhere. I have shiznit tons of .40 from when that one guy was in charge and shiznit was stupid...I'd pick up a box or two every week just to save back...and now I don't have any .40 guns.

Thinking about a generic AR10 build. Just gonna stick with .308 as it's stupidly common everywhere, and it'll kill deer. Plus shiznitheads who want to invade my farm...talking about the 4 legged kind...and possibly the 2 legged variety.

"To secure peace....is to prepare for war."


Stay safe, y'all. It's gonna get worse before it will get better..

Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on November 17, 2020, 05:43:23 PM
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

I'm loving my decision to get into reloading.  Cheap 9mm FMJ is going for .90/per when you can find it, but since I'm pre-supplied on small pistol and small rifle primers, I'm loading 9mm for .15/per, and likewise 300BLK $2/per, but I'm making it for about .50/per.  I'd like better selection of .355 and .308 bullets, but I'm not going without.
Glad I already had primers though, they're practically unobtanium now.
Title: Re: Who has guns?
Post by: Clayton on December 15, 2020, 11:45:09 AM
Yup. Can't find ANY goded 9mm or 45 anywhere. ...........................

"To secure peace....is to prepare for war.



I feel ya there. Being the main two I have are 9 and 45 I've been trying to stock up but too little, too late. I have a 357 snub but I'm not comfortable carrying that particular one due to having no safety, and feeling like I'm holding a bar of soap in my hands. The grip is so small every time I fire it, it tries to escape.

And screw trying to buy any 223/556. Everywhere around here has been out since August or so. Even 22lr is getting scarce around here.


Too much is never enough